997 c2s Questions
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Hi Guys
I just test drove a 997 c2s with 30k miles on the clock and have a couple of questions as it was the first one that I have driven.
The car was a manual but I found the clutch a bit odd in that the action wasn't smooth, it had a definite step almost like a switch, is that a characteristic of a Porsche clutch?
Compared to my tuscan the front felt very light, I assume that's normal as the weight is all behind?
It had a button with a picture of a damper on it - what does this do? I think it firmed the suspension up, is this standard or an option?
It needed to be over 5000 rpm for anything properly good to happen, I assume they are all like this as a friends Cayman S is the same, needs the revs quite high to really fly
Has anyone come across a remap for a 997 C2S by a company called Ramus?
The interior was quite worn for a 30k mile car, the 996 turbos I have looked at with twice the mileage have been better, is the 997 less durable inside? It generally felt less solid
Sorry for all the questions, I am new to 997's
Biggest worry is the clutch TBH
Thanks in advance
Nick
I just test drove a 997 c2s with 30k miles on the clock and have a couple of questions as it was the first one that I have driven.
The car was a manual but I found the clutch a bit odd in that the action wasn't smooth, it had a definite step almost like a switch, is that a characteristic of a Porsche clutch?
Compared to my tuscan the front felt very light, I assume that's normal as the weight is all behind?
It had a button with a picture of a damper on it - what does this do? I think it firmed the suspension up, is this standard or an option?
It needed to be over 5000 rpm for anything properly good to happen, I assume they are all like this as a friends Cayman S is the same, needs the revs quite high to really fly
Has anyone come across a remap for a 997 C2S by a company called Ramus?
The interior was quite worn for a 30k mile car, the 996 turbos I have looked at with twice the mileage have been better, is the 997 less durable inside? It generally felt less solid
Sorry for all the questions, I am new to 997's
Biggest worry is the clutch TBH
Thanks in advance
Nick
Edited by blueg33 on Friday 9th March 10:37
The clutch should be progressive and smooth. At 30k if its the original factory item and depending on use it could be nearing replacement time (sub £1k at indy).
Button with damper is the PASM Sport mode, as you say pressing it stiffens the suspension, standard on the "S" models.
Don't follow you on the 5k for something to happen thing, they normally are quite torquey (in my consideration) and ready in response throughout the rev range.
Interiors seem to wear differently on use, I'd say some trim colours are worse than others (blue, grey) but mostly on care of PO.
Personally, I'd give it a miss as it doesn't sound a nice one!
I think the others have answered the salient points, but I would add that the clutch should be of reasonable weight and smooth / progressive!
The engine is lovely and torquey in the midrange, but yes it really needs revs to deliver the "full monty" experience, but the gearing does keep you in the sweet spot!
My interior looks almost perfect at 36,000 miles - so maybe this one needs a bit of leather TLC (cleaning / conditioning etc)?
The engine is lovely and torquey in the midrange, but yes it really needs revs to deliver the "full monty" experience, but the gearing does keep you in the sweet spot!
My interior looks almost perfect at 36,000 miles - so maybe this one needs a bit of leather TLC (cleaning / conditioning etc)?
I also had a Tuscan and (eventually) worked my way round to a C2S. The perceived `lack' of torque is probably due to the Tuscan's outrageous straight line performace - but Porsche's can be great fun too if you drive them hard. They are also much more competent round twisty country lanes. As mentioned above, I'd try another. Mine was similar miles when I bought it (a 2007 one) from RSJ and was/is in superb nick. It's worrying that you thought the 996 interiors were better, especially given they are older. 997 interiors are generally thought to be much better quality and harder wearing. That's certainly my experience.
Thanks for the replies.
I think there was definitely something wrong with the clutch and the brakes were spongy too. I have just driven the same route in the Tuscan, and I would suggest that performance is similar although the 997 needed higher revs. But it does rev very sweetly. There was a definite step in power delivery though at around 6000 rpm.
The interior is worse than dirty, the satin black lacquer on the centre console is worn off in places, the switch gear is scratched and is the door handle. The cover on the drivers door pocket is misaligned and one of the cup holders doesn't work.
I think the car in question has either had a hard life or has done more than the 30k it claims!
Ignoring the clutch it was nice to drive especially with the suspension button pressed. No where near as dramatic as the Tuscan, but that's ok as I am looking for a daily driver thats quick but can do the boring stuff like navigate, bluetooth the phone calls etc
Does the 997 have similar engine issues to the 996?
Does a 3.4 feel a lot slower?
Cheers
Nick
I think there was definitely something wrong with the clutch and the brakes were spongy too. I have just driven the same route in the Tuscan, and I would suggest that performance is similar although the 997 needed higher revs. But it does rev very sweetly. There was a definite step in power delivery though at around 6000 rpm.
The interior is worse than dirty, the satin black lacquer on the centre console is worn off in places, the switch gear is scratched and is the door handle. The cover on the drivers door pocket is misaligned and one of the cup holders doesn't work.
I think the car in question has either had a hard life or has done more than the 30k it claims!
Ignoring the clutch it was nice to drive especially with the suspension button pressed. No where near as dramatic as the Tuscan, but that's ok as I am looking for a daily driver thats quick but can do the boring stuff like navigate, bluetooth the phone calls etc
Does the 997 have similar engine issues to the 996?
Does a 3.4 feel a lot slower?
Cheers
Nick
My clutch is pretty heavy and does have characteristics of what you suggest. Maybe I need a new clutch too :s
The non-S is definately slower. If you are after performance, you'll be disappointed and would recommend the S over the standard for power. Personally, I liked the non-S as it felt more like my Cayman 2.7 with the way it delivered its power.
997s are supposed to be more reliable than 996's, but both 996 and 997s are afflicted with the engine failure problems, which with each new/revised model having improvements to decrease the chance of it going bang.
The non-S is definately slower. If you are after performance, you'll be disappointed and would recommend the S over the standard for power. Personally, I liked the non-S as it felt more like my Cayman 2.7 with the way it delivered its power.
997s are supposed to be more reliable than 996's, but both 996 and 997s are afflicted with the engine failure problems, which with each new/revised model having improvements to decrease the chance of it going bang.
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