Where would you hold the British GP?

Where would you hold the British GP?

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murcielago

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952 posts

258 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Since Silverstone doesn't seem to be very popular anymore and the London GP is a silly idea.

We could go back to Donington, or the new Rockingham?

Suggestions.......

foster3jd

3,773 posts

246 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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I'm still trying to get my head round why Brands Hatch was dropped from the calendar

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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No - leave the other tracks alone. We don't want them ruined by the Berniefication processess that he requires - or, even worse, Tilkefied. Look what they did to Hockenheim.

The Wiz

5,875 posts

268 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Absolutely ... though if I had to choose .. why not Donington?

anonymous-user

60 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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foster3jd said:
I'm still trying to get my head round why Brands Hatch was dropped from the calendar


mg511

1,754 posts

247 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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foster3jd said:
I'm still trying to get my head round why Brands Hatch was dropped from the calendar


Because it doesn't meet current safety standards and they wouldn't get planning permission to carry them out

jamesc

2,820 posts

290 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Mallory Park with a reversed grid!

FourWheelDrift

89,392 posts

290 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Donington is too small and short (quite unlike Monaco then ) the race in 1993 was good because it rained, a dry race would be very boring as there are no overtaking opportunities for the drivers, straights are too short for modern F1.

Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.

The only thing to do would be to build a new circuit, Hugenholtz style. With all types of corners, elevation changes and straights. minimu length 4 miles. Unfortunately with the government/local councils and Nimbys in this country there is almost nowhere this can be done.

Or of course change the cars.

lazyitus

19,926 posts

272 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Oulton Park.

With the money that would be spent on getting grandstands and such like together, it would be an amazing place to have F1.

.Mark

11,104 posts

282 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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There was talk of using Brands a few years ago IIRC. Apart from the track not being up to it they also said the CAA would never give permission for all the helicopter movements during the day as reletively speaking Gatwick/Heathrow/London City are all too close.

Graham

16,369 posts

290 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Bahrain

Oops sorry thats Bernies Idea...

My first thought was Donny but Oulton would be awesome... mind you i bet they would get a fair lick up along revett straight at snett, although that would probably mean a chicane was bilt half way along....


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edited to say. The trouble is if any circuit wat adapted to take F1 it would ruin the circuit for any other form of motorsport and the Fans, so leave it at silverstone or put it at Rockingham....as there's nothing they could do to the rock, although the paddock is tiny

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>> Edited by Graham on Friday 16th July 11:29

murcielago

Original Poster:

952 posts

258 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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I think Snett would be a good place, if they just extended it by 2km, doubled the paddock size and put up new grandstands.

foster3jd

3,773 posts

246 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
I'd have to disagree with that, as there are so many lines through paddock hill bend that someone always gets it wrong and leaves the door open by running slow up to druids... likewise graham hill bend and the run down the cooper straight into surtees.

Jon C

3,214 posts

253 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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I always thought it would be an interesting experiment to run one of the world championship rounds as a knock out eliminator Drag Race. Qualify the cars for a sixteen car field, then run them in FIA qualified order (1 Vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc) on a knockout basis. The whole thing would take about an hour and a half (TV Friendly), there would be little delays for things like Oil Downs and suchlike, and the cars would be effectively "hot lapping" meaning little downtime.

So I would hold it at Santa Pod!!

RedTeg

1,989 posts

287 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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What! Not Knockhill then?

RichB

52,538 posts

290 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Brands Hatch

FourWheelDrift

89,392 posts

290 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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foster3jd said:

FourWheelDrift said:
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.

I'd have to disagree with that, as there are so many lines through paddock hill bend that someone always gets it wrong and leaves the door open by running slow up to druids... likewise graham hill bend and the run down the cooper straight into surtees.


In touring cars, FFord, F3 yes but not in F1. Even the heavier/slower CART runners couldn't do it when they visited BH.

foster3jd

3,773 posts

246 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:
foster3jd said:

FourWheelDrift said:
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
I'd have to disagree with that, as there are so many lines through paddock hill bend that someone always gets it wrong and leaves the door open by running slow up to druids... likewise graham hill bend and the run down the cooper straight into surtees.
In touring cars, FFord, F3 yes but not in F1. Even the heavier/slower CART runners couldn't do it when they visited BH.
Still disagree... but mute point as it doesn't look likely to happen.

jimmyc412t2

84 posts

243 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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It has to be an updated Silverstone realistically.

Donington is my favourite other choice but none of the gravel traps are big enough and the inside of the corcuit tiny in comparison...not much room to house the F1 Circus, support races and all the fans.

From a fan's point of view, i see nothing that much wrong with Silverstone. The traffic is about as sorted as its ever going to be when 100,000 people all arrive at the same place at the same time, the burgers are overpriced (like everywhere else) and there could be more toilets but thats about it. I never have any leg room, but that goes for any event of any kind!

Its the prima donna F1 types who are complaining about the quality of their facilities. In my book they get paid X Million to do their jobs, they can put up with less than perfect facilities for 3 days...

McNab

1,627 posts

280 months

Friday 16th July 2004
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Nowhere. Unless it's subsidised, either by your taxes, or Mr. Ecclestone.
A highly respected motoring writer said this to me recently (he is very much at the centre of things and understands the facts):

"...consultants brought in by potential buyers of Brands Hatch Circuits Ltd had concluded that the circuits the company controls, Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Snetterton and Cadwell Park ..can not be run at a profit. This was an honest confirmation of what has been known behind the scenes for some time; that running a motor racing circuit for motor
racing was uneconomic. Without the existence of racing circuits there can be no racing at any level. Will someone, fifty years from now, be able to write a book about racing between 2004 and 2054 ? I am seriously beginning to doubt it."

In other words without theme parks, funfairs, kart tracks, corporate shenanigans etc etc, the bubble's going to burst. It's an ultra-risky business. Will Jonathan Palmer be OK? Probably not, unless he sells off some of the circuits for other developments. Rockingham? I'm not optimistic.

Sad.