Where would you hold the British GP?
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Donington is too small and short (quite unlike Monaco then ) the race in 1993 was good because it rained, a dry race would be very boring as there are no overtaking opportunities for the drivers, straights are too short for modern F1.
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
The only thing to do would be to build a new circuit, Hugenholtz style. With all types of corners, elevation changes and straights. minimu length 4 miles. Unfortunately with the government/local councils and Nimbys in this country there is almost nowhere this can be done.
Or of course change the cars.
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
The only thing to do would be to build a new circuit, Hugenholtz style. With all types of corners, elevation changes and straights. minimu length 4 miles. Unfortunately with the government/local councils and Nimbys in this country there is almost nowhere this can be done.
Or of course change the cars.
Bahrain
Oops sorry thats Bernies Idea...
My first thought was Donny but Oulton would be awesome... mind you i bet they would get a fair lick up along revett straight at snett, although that would probably mean a chicane was bilt half way along....
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edited to say. The trouble is if any circuit wat adapted to take F1 it would ruin the circuit for any other form of motorsport and the Fans, so leave it at silverstone or put it at Rockingham....as there's nothing they could do to the rock, although the paddock is tiny
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>> Edited by Graham on Friday 16th July 11:29
Oops sorry thats Bernies Idea...
My first thought was Donny but Oulton would be awesome... mind you i bet they would get a fair lick up along revett straight at snett, although that would probably mean a chicane was bilt half way along....
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edited to say. The trouble is if any circuit wat adapted to take F1 it would ruin the circuit for any other form of motorsport and the Fans, so leave it at silverstone or put it at Rockingham....as there's nothing they could do to the rock, although the paddock is tiny
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>> Edited by Graham on Friday 16th July 11:29
FourWheelDrift said:I'd have to disagree with that, as there are so many lines through paddock hill bend that someone always gets it wrong and leaves the door open by running slow up to druids... likewise graham hill bend and the run down the cooper straight into surtees.
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
I always thought it would be an interesting experiment to run one of the world championship rounds as a knock out eliminator Drag Race. Qualify the cars for a sixteen car field, then run them in FIA qualified order (1 Vs 16, 2 vs 15, etc) on a knockout basis. The whole thing would take about an hour and a half (TV Friendly), there would be little delays for things like Oil Downs and suchlike, and the cars would be effectively "hot lapping" meaning little downtime.
So I would hold it at Santa Pod!!
So I would hold it at Santa Pod!!
foster3jd said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
I'd have to disagree with that, as there are so many lines through paddock hill bend that someone always gets it wrong and leaves the door open by running slow up to druids... likewise graham hill bend and the run down the cooper straight into surtees.
In touring cars, FFord, F3 yes but not in F1. Even the heavier/slower CART runners couldn't do it when they visited BH.
FourWheelDrift said:Still disagree... but mute point as it doesn't look likely to happen.
foster3jd said:In touring cars, FFord, F3 yes but not in F1. Even the heavier/slower CART runners couldn't do it when they visited BH.
FourWheelDrift said:I'd have to disagree with that, as there are so many lines through paddock hill bend that someone always gets it wrong and leaves the door open by running slow up to druids... likewise graham hill bend and the run down the cooper straight into surtees.
Brands is full of medium speed corners so it would be a procession too. The run from Paddock Hill to Druids is too short for F1's to pass under braking.
It has to be an updated Silverstone realistically.
Donington is my favourite other choice but none of the gravel traps are big enough and the inside of the corcuit tiny in comparison...not much room to house the F1 Circus, support races and all the fans.
From a fan's point of view, i see nothing that much wrong with Silverstone. The traffic is about as sorted as its ever going to be when 100,000 people all arrive at the same place at the same time, the burgers are overpriced (like everywhere else) and there could be more toilets but thats about it. I never have any leg room, but that goes for any event of any kind!
Its the prima donna F1 types who are complaining about the quality of their facilities. In my book they get paid X Million to do their jobs, they can put up with less than perfect facilities for 3 days...
Donington is my favourite other choice but none of the gravel traps are big enough and the inside of the corcuit tiny in comparison...not much room to house the F1 Circus, support races and all the fans.
From a fan's point of view, i see nothing that much wrong with Silverstone. The traffic is about as sorted as its ever going to be when 100,000 people all arrive at the same place at the same time, the burgers are overpriced (like everywhere else) and there could be more toilets but thats about it. I never have any leg room, but that goes for any event of any kind!
Its the prima donna F1 types who are complaining about the quality of their facilities. In my book they get paid X Million to do their jobs, they can put up with less than perfect facilities for 3 days...
Nowhere. Unless it's subsidised, either by your taxes, or Mr. Ecclestone.
A highly respected motoring writer said this to me recently (he is very much at the centre of things and understands the facts):
"...consultants brought in by potential buyers of Brands Hatch Circuits Ltd had concluded that the circuits the company controls, Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Snetterton and Cadwell Park ..can not be run at a profit. This was an honest confirmation of what has been known behind the scenes for some time; that running a motor racing circuit for motor
racing was uneconomic. Without the existence of racing circuits there can be no racing at any level. Will someone, fifty years from now, be able to write a book about racing between 2004 and 2054 ? I am seriously beginning to doubt it."
In other words without theme parks, funfairs, kart tracks, corporate shenanigans etc etc, the bubble's going to burst. It's an ultra-risky business. Will Jonathan Palmer be OK? Probably not, unless he sells off some of the circuits for other developments. Rockingham? I'm not optimistic.
Sad.
A highly respected motoring writer said this to me recently (he is very much at the centre of things and understands the facts):
"...consultants brought in by potential buyers of Brands Hatch Circuits Ltd had concluded that the circuits the company controls, Brands Hatch, Oulton Park, Snetterton and Cadwell Park ..can not be run at a profit. This was an honest confirmation of what has been known behind the scenes for some time; that running a motor racing circuit for motor
racing was uneconomic. Without the existence of racing circuits there can be no racing at any level. Will someone, fifty years from now, be able to write a book about racing between 2004 and 2054 ? I am seriously beginning to doubt it."
In other words without theme parks, funfairs, kart tracks, corporate shenanigans etc etc, the bubble's going to burst. It's an ultra-risky business. Will Jonathan Palmer be OK? Probably not, unless he sells off some of the circuits for other developments. Rockingham? I'm not optimistic.
Sad.
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