AlFa Romeo with Ferrari engine.

[Mazdarati]

Hey guys,

My friend told me that about 20 years ago he saw Alfa romeo with Ferrari engine!
It was made 5 cars only with ferrari engine!

Can smn tell me is that truth or not? Maybe smn have more info about it?

Thanks guys waiting for ypur help.

[jamieandthemagic]

I smell BS........ not that I've ever heard of.

[Colin RedGriff]

Doesn't the AR 8c Competzione use a Ferrari assembled engine which is derived from a Maserati engine?

[Mazdarati]

8с maybe

But my friend told me that he saw AR 20 YEARS ago with Ferrari engine. Thats why i thought i should ask here )) to 100% sure.

[craigjm]

Not an Alfa but there was a version of the Lancia Thema saloon called the 8.32 with a detuned engine from the Ferrari Modial

[Chris Type R]

Maybe your friend was thinking of the Lancia Thema 8.32 ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Thema

[craigjm]

Chris Type R said:

Maybe your friend was thinking of the Lancia Thema 8.32 ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancia_Thema

Keep up

[Mazdarati]

Hmmm i think you are right . Thanks ))))
Need to talk with my friend )))))) i think i win )))) cause he told me that it was AR but really it was Lancia )))

[Chris Type R]

craigjm said:

Keep up

pah !

[coetzeeh]

there is a clip on youtube of an Alfa 164 with a F1 V10 engine driven by Michele Alboreto?

[arguti]

coetzeeh said:

there is a clip on youtube of an Alfa 164 with a F1 V10 engine driven by Michele Alboreto?

I think this is the car that is being referred to and causing the confusion - F1 V10 Engine

http://www.alfisti.net/351.2.html?&L=1


here it is in action with Ricardo Patrese

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQigN057dMw

Edited by arguti on Thursday 23 February 10:04

[jas xjr]

I thought it might be the Montreal , googled it and it's not I am afraid . Sorry

[pixelpimp]

159 GTA was tested at Balocco with the V8 from Maserati/Ferrari but never produced sadly. Sounded fantastic.
The Thema 8.32 engine was not a detuned Ferrari anything, shares very few components.

I knew I had the image somewhere.

Edited by pixelpimp on Wednesday 21st August 11:02

[arguti]

Who knows whether there is any truth in this.....


A friend of mine near Stuttgart used to live next door to a very senior R&D chap at Mercedes a few years ago and this chap regularly came home with various development Mercedes with BMW engines and vice versa - not sure what happens to these test mules and where they eventually land up. Knowing the Italians and given that Fiat, Alfa, Maserati are all in the same group makes it even more likely.

A remember seeing some photos a while back from the abandoned Alfa Romeo factory at Portello and the number of test car shells, etc just left to rot.

[Parabola]

pixelpimp said:

159 GTA was tested at Balocco with the V8 from Maserati/Ferrari but never produced sadly. Sounded fantastic.

159 GTA (or 156?) Did they fix up a RWD system for it? Would be amazing. Hope it still exists somewhere.

[crostonian]

The V10 in the 164 Procar had no relation to any Ferrari product.

The Thema 8.32 unit is very much a Ferrari V8 albeit with a different crank and yes lots of other minor changes to make it fit. If you are going to be picky, look at a Busso V6 from a 75, 164 and GTV - very few parts can be swapped over.

[Jacobyte]

There was an Alfasud Sprint with a mid-mounted Ferrari engine in it. Can't remember the details, but I recall more than one was made, although not by Alfa themselves.

[thegreenhell]

Jacobyte said:

There was an Alfasud Sprint with a mid-mounted Ferrari engine in it. Can't remember the details, but I recall more than one was made, although not by Alfa themselves.

Almost. There was a one-off Ferrari mid-engined Sprint built for rallying by Andy Burton. There was also the Giocattolo, which was loosely based on the Sprint with a mid-mounted Holden V8 and was produced in small numbers in Australia. Alfa themselves built the Sprint 6C, a one-off prototype with a mid-mounted 2.5 V6.

Video of the Andy Burton car: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2rROTHn5y0

[crostonian]

I was convinced the Giocattolo offered the Ferrari V8 at some point but as the post above states it started with the Alfa V6 mid mounted followed by the Holden V8.

[chethemerc]

Your friend was right the alfa romeo sz