Cayman is the best 911...?
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Love the c4s don't get me wrong, but as we all do I am already think about my next car move. I only need two seats, and can't really find any proper reasons why you would have a 911 over a Cayman. It's not even that they look much different....
Think I will take a cayman s for a test drive..
Think I will take a cayman s for a test drive..
Sorry guys, can't agree.
I considered a Cayman against a 997 when changing from my 993, but for me anyway, I could'nt come to terms with the rear of the Cayman; in my view, the 997 is a far nicer looking car, from all angles.
It's obviously a personal choice, otherwise all cars would look the same.
I'm sure the Cayman is a great car and it's a bonus in life to get into any Porsche.
I considered a Cayman against a 997 when changing from my 993, but for me anyway, I could'nt come to terms with the rear of the Cayman; in my view, the 997 is a far nicer looking car, from all angles.
It's obviously a personal choice, otherwise all cars would look the same.
I'm sure the Cayman is a great car and it's a bonus in life to get into any Porsche.
Interesting comments. I have never bought a car on looks, otherwise I would not have a WRX as a daily hack and would have bought an Aston as the weekend toy!!
The cayman is very easy to drive upto and over it's limits, where the 911 takes a far greater degree of skill, this is the challenge that most of us enjoy and relish. It's one that keeps me hooked!
I think my mistake was going for the 4S rather than the C2S, which does indeed deliver that razor sharp feeling.
The cayman is very easy to drive upto and over it's limits, where the 911 takes a far greater degree of skill, this is the challenge that most of us enjoy and relish. It's one that keeps me hooked!
I think my mistake was going for the 4S rather than the C2S, which does indeed deliver that razor sharp feeling.
The cabin is much smaller on a Cayman if you are 6ft or more.
I also only need 2 seats and I considered changing my 7GT3 for a CR last year, but the 35 mile motorway run back to the dealers, in stop-start rush hour traffic, showed up that it wasn't comfortable for me - not a problem when bouncing around the back lanes.
Glad I didn't swap, but maybe the new Boxman in a few years if it has grown an inch or so?
I also only need 2 seats and I considered changing my 7GT3 for a CR last year, but the 35 mile motorway run back to the dealers, in stop-start rush hour traffic, showed up that it wasn't comfortable for me - not a problem when bouncing around the back lanes.
Glad I didn't swap, but maybe the new Boxman in a few years if it has grown an inch or so?
At 6ft, the Cayman cabin has tons of room for me. I actually wish it was smaller. Soon as I stepped into an Mx-5 the cabin felt much more like a sports car (apart from the difference in build quality). Personally Id rather have the feeling of the car wrapping around me, rather than tons of open space.
They are totally different cars IMO. If you don't 'get' the whole rear engined thing, the nose bobbing about, the instability and constant chatter and chassis fidget and you prefer a cayman to drive then you're just not a 911 sort of guy. Those idiosyncracies you will most likely label 'bad handling' and will find them to be a pain in the &rse. Nowt wrong with that, we're all different. I hated 911's when I first drove them but now I find most other cars way too bland and easy.
jackal said:
They are totally different cars IMO. If you don't 'get' the whole rear engined thing, the nose bobbing about, the instability and constant chatter and chassis fidget and you prefer a cayman to drive then you're just not a 911 sort of guy. Those idiosyncracies you will most likely label 'bad handling' and will find them to be a pain in the &rse. Nowt wrong with that, we're all different. I hated 911's when I first drove them but now I find most other cars way too bland and easy.
Interesting. We're changing from 986s to 997c2s next week. Although I'm excited about it, I'm also a little nervous about learning to drive it properly. Mrs B describes the Boxster as 'easy' to drive. I wonder how we'll find the 911?Bill Stein said:
I think in truth the Cayman is the best Boxster, not the best 911.
+1dont get me wrong the cayman is an outstanding piece of kit and blows all its peers outta the water, instantly usable across a wide range of speeds and road conditions...sure footed and eager like a puppy on red bull....but it can never stir the loins like the 911 (though maybe a semi for the R..) less majic less sense of occasion...IMO and in the looks department..no contest!
Over and out!
how can anyone say the rear of a 911 looks nice , strange.
The rear Cayman sills look smooth and sexy
I would take a Cayman over a normal 911
but the 911 range has the Turbo, GT3, RS etc which are all in another market.
As for a base 911, Cayman every time.
Cayman R won drivers car of the year btw.
And the Spyder the lightest and best drivers car they have made since the 996RS
All depends what you want , status or a better car :-p, ofcourse if you crave BHp Porsche hold the Cayman back becasue it would be too good :-) so you have to buy a 100k 911 for you 400BHp thrills.
The new 2012 Boxster seems like the only car any one would ever need, if you think about it.
The rear Cayman sills look smooth and sexy
I would take a Cayman over a normal 911
but the 911 range has the Turbo, GT3, RS etc which are all in another market.
As for a base 911, Cayman every time.
Cayman R won drivers car of the year btw.
And the Spyder the lightest and best drivers car they have made since the 996RS
All depends what you want , status or a better car :-p, ofcourse if you crave BHp Porsche hold the Cayman back becasue it would be too good :-) so you have to buy a 100k 911 for you 400BHp thrills.
The new 2012 Boxster seems like the only car any one would ever need, if you think about it.
I would take a Cayman over a normal 911
but the 911 range has the Turbo, GT3, RS etc which are all in another market.
As for a base 911, Cayman every time.
Cayman R won drivers car of the year btw.
And the Spyder the lightest and best drivers car they have made since the 996RS
All depends what you want , status or a better car :-p, ofcourse if you crave BHp Porsche hold the Cayman back becasue it would be too good :-) so you have to buy a 100k 911 for you 400BHp thrills.
The new 2012 Boxster seems like the only car any one would ever need, if you think about it.
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but the 911 range has the Turbo, GT3, RS etc which are all in another market.
As for a base 911, Cayman every time.
Cayman R won drivers car of the year btw.
And the Spyder the lightest and best drivers car they have made since the 996RS
All depends what you want , status or a better car :-p, ofcourse if you crave BHp Porsche hold the Cayman back becasue it would be too good :-) so you have to buy a 100k 911 for you 400BHp thrills.
The new 2012 Boxster seems like the only car any one would ever need, if you think about it.
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blackburn said:
jackal said:
They are totally different cars IMO. If you don't 'get' the whole rear engined thing, the nose bobbing about, the instability and constant chatter and chassis fidget and you prefer a cayman to drive then you're just not a 911 sort of guy. Those idiosyncracies you will most likely label 'bad handling' and will find them to be a pain in the &rse. Nowt wrong with that, we're all different. I hated 911's when I first drove them but now I find most other cars way too bland and easy.
Interesting. We're changing from 986s to 997c2s next week. Although I'm excited about it, I'm also a little nervous about learning to drive it properly. Mrs B describes the Boxster as 'easy' to drive. I wonder how we'll find the 911?mrdemon said:
how can anyone say the rear of a 911 looks nice , strange.
All depends what you want , status or a better car :-p, ofcourse if you crave BHp Porsche hold the Cayman back becasue it would be too good :-) so you have to buy a 100k 911 for you 400BHp thrills.
On the other hand how can anyone say that the rear of a Cayman is sexy .....comes down eye of beholder and personal opinion.All depends what you want , status or a better car :-p, ofcourse if you crave BHp Porsche hold the Cayman back becasue it would be too good :-) so you have to buy a 100k 911 for you 400BHp thrills.
I'd have a base 911 over a Cayman and it's not about status or I'd still have my Ferrari.....and if it was about outright pace and looks aside then I would have a Nissan GTR.
Cayman for me just looks compromised, it is a Boxster with a roof added and that shows in the lines. The 911 has smooth haunches flowing from the roof of the body towards the rear whereas the Cayman looks as if they just added a roof as best they could. The look is something that has been in my blood since I was 7 and I became aware of the 911.
When it comes to driving on the public roads it wouldn't matter if you had a base 911 or a Cayman S or R ... unless you were an extremely talented driver then all of these cars would probably perform pretty much the same. Then again everyone on here seems to be a driving god so I guess I'm probably wrong.
At 10/ 10ths there may be a difference but for the kind of driving that most owners will subject their cars to safely on public roads then it is a minute difference.
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