The Porsche Diesel question...are we being swayed by OPC's??
The Porsche Diesel question...are we being swayed by OPC's??
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dasherdiablo1

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4,475 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Having recently spoken to a number of different OPCs I have noticed that they are ALL trying to convince potential new Panamera and Cayenne purchasers to opt for the diesel derivitive.

Now I am a slightly suspicous chap and have noticed just how low the diesel engines CO2 emissions are. Now as we all know Aston released the Cygnet in an attempt to reduce their carbon footprint (blah blah blah) on new cars built and sold.

So my question is.....Are we all being conned/influenced by Porsche to buy their 'family' orientated cars to reduce their footprint so that they can continue to produce the performance cars and meet their quota of 'green crentials'?

SonnyM

3,475 posts

224 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I got 600 miles out of a Pepper Diesel tank - I would buy that for a dollar.

JohnBolton

13 posts

177 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Arent Porsche part of the Volkswagen group? Or is it the other way around? 1m Polo's and Golfs buy a lot of CO2.

Geneve

4,020 posts

250 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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The Cayenne Diesel is smooth, quiet, lots of mid-range performance, and will easily average 35+ mpg. What's not to like.

sajafzal

392 posts

184 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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dasherdiablo1 said:
Having recently spoken to a number of different OPCs I have noticed that they are ALL trying to convince potential new Panamera and Cayenne purchasers to opt for the diesel derivitive.

Now I am a slightly suspicous chap and have noticed just how low the diesel engines CO2 emissions are. Now as we all know Aston released the Cygnet in an attempt to reduce their carbon footprint (blah blah blah) on new cars built and sold.

So my question is.....Are we all being conned/influenced by Porsche to buy their 'family' orientated cars to reduce their footprint so that they can continue to produce the performance cars and meet their quota of 'green crentials'?
I think all dealers offer test drives for everyone to make up their own minds, having driven the Cayenne diesel I can only describe it as brilliant

Saj

SoliD

1,540 posts

248 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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To be honest, when you look at the pricing, and actually drive them, the diesels aren't bad, I had a porsche experience day last year and drove a hybrid panamera and diesel cayenne and preferred the diesel engine, my old man has a diesel panamera, and although a bit chuggy around town, for general driving purposes I can see the appeal, it isn't exactly slow but for a 60 year old bloke, it has enough poke but great fuel economy for blasting across europe. Not my cup of tea but I can see why they are becoming so popular.

Captain James T

615 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I had a Panadrama Diesel as a loan car when my 997 GTS was in for a warranty fiddle and LOVED every minute of it. Smooth, quick, fabulous design and beautifully made..... and yes EVERYONE looked at it... Genuine replacement for my 535d Touring smile

betternotbigger

1,059 posts

206 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Geneve said:
The Cayenne Diesel is smooth, quiet, lots of mid-range performance, and will easily average 35+ mpg. What's not to like.
Err.... the sound?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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betternotbigger said:
Geneve said:
The Cayenne Diesel is smooth, quiet, lots of mid-range performance, and will easily average 35+ mpg. What's not to like.
Err.... the sound?
tbh, you're not buying a cayenne as a driving tool so the sound isn't really that important, is it?

dasherdiablo1

Original Poster:

4,475 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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I'm not denying the diesel isn't great...see my previous posts and how I've been praising it. Someone made a comment about not liking the sound. I'm guessing you haven't been in one because it sounds like a V6 pertrol engine...it is smooth and very very quiet - far quieter on tick over than my Boxster S. Giving the throttle a good dose of heavy foot and you will be surprised at just how well Porsche have played with the induction/exhaust noises.

The purpose of my message is why dealers are trying to put me off a petrol version by telling me there are long waiting lists for the V6 as Porsche aren't making many etc

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

187 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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The same dealer is probably conscious of the fact that he will have to offer you a trade in price at some stage in the future. Can't see petrol Cayenne and Panamera models being much fun on that front. TBH, the Cayenne diesel is a fantastic car and for what it is, why would you look at a petrol? Not driven the PanDerv but very positive write up in one of the Porsche mags this month.

dasherdiablo1

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4,475 posts

252 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Helicopter123 said:
The same dealer is probably conscious of the fact that he will have to offer you a trade in price at some stage in the future. Can't see petrol Cayenne and Panamera models being much fun on that front. TBH, the Cayenne diesel is a fantastic car and for what it is, why would you look at a petrol? Not driven the PanDerv but very positive write up in one of the Porsche mags this month.
The PanDerv is cracking....I think that is where my money is going...but I really want the PDK which can be had in diesel guise :O(

mollytherocker

14,469 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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dasherdiablo1 said:
So my question is.....Are we all being conned/influenced by Porsche to buy their 'family' orientated cars to reduce their footprint so that they can continue to produce the performance cars and meet their quota of 'green crentials'?
I suppose its entirely possible that they have that Target. But so what? You have your own mind. I find it useful to switch off when salesman speak. Never be led by them.

Mtr