997Turbo question.
997Turbo question.
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PHOENIXUK

Original Poster:

2,200 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Can somebody please outline the main differences between a Gen1 and Gen2 997 Turbo, thanks in advance.

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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The engine. Gen 1 has the 3.6 Mezger GT1 block. Gen 2 has the 3.8 DFI engine.

Gearbox (non manual): Gen 1 has a tip, Gen 2 has PDK.

No doubt other stuff too.

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 29th January 20:28

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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not to do with the drive, but PCM 2 in the gen 1 and PCM 3 in the gen 2

Porsche Torque Vectoring debuted on the gen 2 iirc

PHOENIXUK

Original Poster:

2,200 posts

232 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Was touch screen sat nav available on the Gen 1 ?

Koln-RS

4,128 posts

243 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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PHOENIXUK said:
Was touch screen sat nav available on the Gen 1 ?
For the last year of Gen 1 production ('09 MY?)

The new Gen 2 incorporated quite a lot of developments and improvements, including a new engine and PDK, although many others were options. Can't remember all the details, but the Turbo S incorporated all these options - so would be the 'full fat' version.

Best to get a decent road test from around the launch period to get the full chapter and verse.

Lordglenmorangie

3,071 posts

236 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Twenty grand biggrin

IMI A

9,997 posts

232 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Lordglenmorangie said:
Twenty grand biggrin
You mean the gen 1 turbo engine is worth more than £20k and the gen 2 turbo engine is worth nought surely?! wink

Lordglenmorangie

3,071 posts

236 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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IMI A said:
You mean the gen 1 turbo engine is worth more than £20k and the gen 2 turbo engine is worth nought surely?! wink
biggrinyes

Skrambles

1,358 posts

295 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Gen 2 also has slightly bigger (& possibly louder) exhausts; LED lights.

esada

104 posts

205 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Gen2 superior car in many respects. Drive both and make up your own mind.

Lordglenmorangie

3,071 posts

236 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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esada said:
Gen2 superior car in many respects. Drive both and make up your own mind.
I have and it's not driving

mrdemon

21,146 posts

296 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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well it is in performace tearms

Geneve

4,020 posts

250 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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The Gen 2, with all the chassis enhancement options, is a much more involving drive, IMO.

StuB

6,695 posts

270 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Rich, surely local Porsche Centre can tell you all from the chassis number?

After the Scud & GT2, you obviously need a big hit from a daily too?

Git!

s3nick

710 posts

250 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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IMO if you want the fastest out of the factory vehicle then pick a gen 2 997tt with pdk but if you care about reliability and the option to tune your vehicle then pick a gen 1 997tt as you can not beat it.

I could afford either one and stick with my gen 1 all day long!!!!

The gen 1 has a bullet proof engine and the gen 2 has a pile of mush.

The gen 1 with a good exhaust system sound the mutz nutz and the gen 2 does not sound as good thanks to the DFI.

I think everyone else has pretty much covered the rest of the differences ie 3.8ltr, rear led's, wheels, drl other funky gadgets like torque vectoring etc.... etc....

Lordglenmorangie

3,071 posts

236 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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s3nick said:
IMO if you want the fastest out of the factory vehicle then pick a gen 2 997tt with pdk but if you care about reliability and the option to tune your vehicle then pick a gen 1 997tt as you can not beat it.

I could afford either one and stick with my gen 1 all day long!!!!

The gen 1 has a bullet proof engine and the gen 2 has a pile of mush.

The gen 1 with a good exhaust system sound the mutz nutz and the gen 2 does not sound as good thanks to the DFI.

I think everyone else has pretty much covered the rest of the differences ie 3.8ltr, rear led's, wheels, drl other funky gadgets like torque vectoring etc.... etc....
yes

IMI A

9,997 posts

232 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I agree with many of the comments re performance being better in many respects on gen 2 car especially the steering feel which no-one seems to mention. The gen 2 chassis has also been optimised to let the tail wag more than the gen 1. Gen 2 PDK is surreal too as others have mentioned.

Aber, meine Herren der motor in der generation ein 997 Turbo ist ein technisches meisterwerk.

During my winter check at Hatfield the porsche engineer was proudly purring under the car at the engine explaining it was easily good enough for 650bhp due to it being a fully serviceable racing block. He was encouraging me to unleash the beast saying even if it does go pop at some stage they're easy to rebuild! I'm seriously considering sending it to a cargraphic dealer!

I'd love to have a ride in a modded gen 1 car!!!!!

esada

104 posts

205 months

Friday 10th February 2012
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Lordglenmorangie said:
I have and it's not driving
Whatever.

sjswanson

7 posts

177 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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"The gen 1 has a bullet proof engine and the gen 2 has a pile of mush."

I have a 997-2 TT. I am not as knowledgeable about the engine differences as folks here are. I'd really like to know why the gen 2 is a pile of mush? I can't seem to find a detailed description of teh Mezger vs "9A1" (I believe is the designation?). If someone could point me to a resource for the details or something more than "the Mezger is race tested" (I have assumed ALL porsche engines are race tested at some point - at least that's what Hurley said).

I appreciate any enlightenment. Steve

IMI A

9,997 posts

232 months

Saturday 11th February 2012
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sjswanson said:
"The gen 1 has a bullet proof engine and the gen 2 has a pile of mush."

I have a 997-2 TT. I am not as knowledgeable about the engine differences as folks here are. I'd really like to know why the gen 2 is a pile of mush? I can't seem to find a detailed description of teh Mezger vs "9A1" (I believe is the designation?). If someone could point me to a resource for the details or something more than "the Mezger is race tested" (I have assumed ALL porsche engines are race tested at some point - at least that's what Hurley said).

I appreciate any enlightenment. Steve
Your engine isn't mush. It just does not have a racing pedigree but may well start being developed for racing in the next generation of the 991 GT3. Unless you're planning on tune to high bhp it makes no difference and as an all round car your gen 2 is better road car IMO. Still wouldn't swap mine for a gen 2 though unless I wanted PDK.

Pretty good info here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_911

Read from 996 GT3 to 97 turbo and you'll note references to Mezger