Failed MOT, boo hoo. Need a body off! Advice please.
Failed MOT, boo hoo. Need a body off! Advice please.
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Ozzie54321

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78 posts

183 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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My outriggers are religious, they are as holy as The Arch Bishop of Canterbury, it wasn’t even worth doing the MOT, so I’m faced with a full body off job. (Ouch! Only had the car for 7 months and the chassis looked great when I inspected it in July last year. Just goes to show that a proper inspection by a TVR experienced guy would be worth the cost! Waxoyl covers all manor of sins, a good poke with a screwdriver and ouch, my wallet flinched!) It’s not a job I’m capable of doing myself (due to a lack of time, tools and most of all competence) and so I’ve given the go ahead to Steve at SD Auto Tec to do the work. His estimate is £2K + VAT, which is a tough pill to swallow after Christmas, but that’s life! So, the question to you guys in the know is.... what else is worth considering doing while the body is off? Trailing arms look to have been done recently and shocks are new, exhaust is a full SS one and tank and cradle look OK. I’ve already decided to “tart” up the engine bay a bit and give the car a full service, but for a few extra quid, what would you guys do at this point? I can’t afford a complete nut and bolt restoration.

ChrisGadd

687 posts

259 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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depending on milage maybe worth doing the clutch

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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It's just coming up to 60K miles, it had a new one fitted at 35K in 2000, so would you think it about time for a new one?

ketvrin

3,504 posts

238 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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I would take the opportunity to replace all mounts... Engine (with Rally Design mounts) Gearbox and Diff.
you will also benefit from replacing your steering rack mounts ARB bushes and wishbone and shock absorber bushes (all Poly)

Hope it goes well for you...

K wink

techbotics

1,805 posts

211 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Warning don't buy too may extras until the body is off. It may get worse... Mine did frown that said I knew mine was a pup at purchase..

Cheers D S3

v8s4me

7,275 posts

248 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Still worth replacing the clutch & thrust bearing and the actuating arm (see recent threads) as these jobs are a lot easier to do when the engine is out. Any other jobs which are easier, and therefore cheaper, with the body off and engine out are worth considering subject to your budget.

DJ8226

401 posts

202 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Hello and sorry to hear your news.

Steve is a good guy and knows his stuff, worth negotiating the price though. RT In Sheffield also do a top job depending on your geographics. My advise - decide who you want to do the work then get the body off then take all this advice and Steve's or RT's and set yourself a budget and stick to it. If the rest of the car is good then its well worth the expenditure. You may not get a return on your investment but it won't de-value afterwards like a mainstream car. Good luck and post photo's before during and after.

AquaRegia

127 posts

269 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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Hi Steve did a full body off restoration to my V8s it was well worth it and the car so much better to drive. Stiffer chassis!

I would do it rather than a outrigger repair. Also whilst engine out get the cam and liffters sorted.

I have some photos of the work I can email to you.


B16JUS

2,386 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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I cant find it but, there was a thread about a ready made chassis in alloy i think from memery it was 4k ?


Does anyone remember it or can anyone find it ?

thanks

GreenV8S

31,017 posts

313 months

Tuesday 10th January 2012
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B16JUS said:
I cant find it but, there was a thread about a ready made chassis in alloy i think from memery it was 4k ?
RT Racing announced that they had a full set of jigs and were offering complete chassis or just outriggers a little while ago. This is plain old mild steel though, like the original. I've never seen anyone advertising an alloy chassis - it would have to be designed very differently and I suspect you'd add a zero to that price.

The Big G

1,004 posts

197 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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Have a good look too at the trailing arm mounts too as I've just found holes in mine frown This opens up a hole new world of repair as it is a integral part to the chassis with it going through the central spine of the vehicle. Have a look at the photos going up on my thread.

B16JUS

2,386 posts

266 months

Wednesday 11th January 2012
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GreenV8S said:
B16JUS said:
I cant find it but, there was a thread about a ready made chassis in alloy i think from memery it was 4k ?
RT Racing announced that they had a full set of jigs and were offering complete chassis or just outriggers a little while ago. This is plain old mild steel though, like the original. I've never seen anyone advertising an alloy chassis - it would have to be designed very differently and I suspect you'd add a zero to that price.
maby it was steel my mistake i will have a look thanks

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Thanks for all the helpful advice. I have left the car today at SD Auto Tec, Steve informs me that by the end of next week the body should be off. He will then give the chassis a good pressure wash and scrub to remove as much of the waxoyl as possible, so we can have a better look at what needs doing, at the moment it looks as if it's only the front ends of the outriggers that are holed. But we'll know a lot more next week. So, while the body is off I've added to Steves list - new clutch, bearing, arm and probably a skim of the fly wheel, as I've been having some juddery hill starts recently. Also going to replace a bunch of bushes and other bits and pieces, but the real list will be made next week once Steve has been able to see the extent of the rust etc. Will be taking a load of photo's as the job goes on and will put some on here id anyone is interested?

ketvrin

3,504 posts

238 months

Friday 13th January 2012
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Ozzie54321 said:
Will be taking a load of photo's as the job goes on and will put some on here id anyone is interested?
As no two seem to be the same, we are always interested to see pictures...

good luck and I hope the tinworm is not too extensive

K wink

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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ketvrin said:
As no two seem to be the same, we are always interested to see pictures...

good luck and I hope the tinworm is not too extensive

K wink
Thanks Kev, didn't realise how expensive worms can be.... bet it was them that ate through my subframe! Pics to follow, (that's of the outriggers and not the worms!) as soon as I work out how to shrink them down so they can be uploaded!

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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How much can Waxoyl hide? Hmmmmm

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Answer ....... A lot!!!

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I now know that when buying a TVR, (or any older car I guess)to get an expert to look at it. When I looked at the outriggers from underneath, prior to purchasing, I was convinced that the subframe was good. The previous owner assured me they were in top condition too. I find it very hard to believe that this amount of corrosion has occured in less than a year, so how can this car have passed an MOT? There must be some very dodgy garages out there! I wonder if I should do something about it?

Anyway, rant over ..... back to the rebuild and my ever increasing shopping and "to do" list. Trying to think of a good way to tell the better half that our holiday is a gonner for 2012 ....."Let's not go away this year Love, let's stay at home and watch the Olympics / Diamond Juberlie / Footie ...." Wish me luck!

phillpot

17,510 posts

212 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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Ozzie54321 said:
I wonder if I should do something about it?
Not really a lot you can do if purchased privately. Not defending the MOT station but there is a limit to how much prodding and poking they are required/allowed to do I believe?

A classic case of Caveat Emptor !

Ozzie54321

Original Poster:

78 posts

183 months

Friday 20th January 2012
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I agree Phil, just a shame it happened on my watch! ..... and I had to look up your latin quote! Obviously you're a well educated TVR man.