Road bike sprocket teeth question more or less
Road bike sprocket teeth question more or less
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plumAJP

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1,149 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Im going to start using my road again now to loose some of this xmas weight.

The problem i had with it last year was on downhill sections in top gear my legs would be going like the clappers and I wouldn't be propelling the bike.

To sort this out can I just get a bigger front sprocket and or bigger/more teeth on the final gear of the rear cassette?


plfrench

4,855 posts

297 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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To raise the gearing you'd want fewer teeth on the rear, not more.

Think of it as the chain having a fixed number of holes. For each chain revolution, fewer teeth in the sproket will mean it has to rotate more times and therefore more wheel revolutions.




plumAJP

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218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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so for pedaling down hill so my legs arent going around so fast and the pedal force feels like there is some resistance i need less teeth on the top gear rear cassette sprocket?

so for example say the chain had 100 holes and the sprocket had 25 teeth it would take me 4 revolutions of the pedal for 1 revolution of the wheel.

If i had 20 teeth i would need to pedal 5 times


What sort of sprocket do most people use?

I will count my sprocket teeth tongight buty i think i have like a 32 tooth

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

238 months

mikee boy

967 posts

280 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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No

It's the ratio of the number of teeth on the front chainring and the rear sprocket. If the front chainring is 44 teeth and the rear sprocket is 11 teeth you'll do 4 revolutions of the rear wheel for every revolution of the chainring.

Easy riding: Small front chainring and big rear sprocket. i.e. 22 front and 32 rear means you'll do approx 1.5 chainring revolutions per rear wheel revolution

Hard riding: Big front chainring and small rear sprocket. i.e. 42 front and 11 rear means you'll do approx .25 chainring revolutions per rear wheel revolution

Road bikes are likely to have 50(ish) at the front and 11 at the rear. If you're descending and can't pedal fast enough to keep up with the bike you're probably doing about 40 mph.

Rouleur

7,415 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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plumAJP said:
I will count my sprocket teeth tongight buty i think i have like a 32 tooth
Sounds like you might be selecting the wrong gear - for maximum speed you should be in the smallest rear sprocket and the biggest front chainring. The size of the largest sprocket is irrelevant.

If you're using that combo and still spinning out then either you're a mentalist on the descents, or you're a future world champion!

thiscocks

3,398 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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most cassettes are 13 or 12 tooth smallest sprocket. Which should be fine with a 52/53 chainring unless you are time trialing on a fast route.

louiebaby

10,948 posts

220 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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I tend to find that when I spin out on a descent, it's time to get as low as possible, and concentrate on the road.

If you're spinning out on 53 at the front, and 11 at the back, and still want to keep pedalling, I would suggest you must be on a very straight road, that is smoothly surfaced. Or a ski-jump with a death wish...?

plumAJP

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218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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Sorry guys. I do mean the higher gear so if that's the small ring on the cassette then that's the one I need to change.

It's only a cheapy bike 21 speed bike.

I will count the teeth and post it up in 10 mins

When I'm pedalling out I'm doing about 35ish mph on a slight decline it's a slight bend too so I can't be going too fast or be world champ

shalmaneser

6,426 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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plumAJP said:
Sorry guys. I do mean the higher gear so if that's the small ring on the cassette then that's the one I need to change.

It's only a cheapy bike 21 speed bike.

I will count the teeth and post it up in 10 mins

When I'm pedalling out I'm doing about 35ish mph on a slight decline it's a slight bend too so I can't be going too fast or be world champ
A 21 speed will have a screw on 7 gear rear block, they're about 30-15 as standard and you'll have a massive effort trying to find anything smaller.

If you must get a bigger front chainring - on a 3x7 setup this will most likely mean replacing the cranks and will be quite expensive. However, if you want to get fit just pedal harder on the uphills and relax on the downs.

plumAJP

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218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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It has 48 or 49 teeth up front and 14 or 15 on the rear. Light is crap in garage now.

Theoldfm

400 posts

216 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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plumAJP said:
It has 48 or 49 teeth up front and 14 or 15 on the rear. Light is crap in garage now.
You should be able to get a rear block or cassette with less teeth on the smallest cog, if it is a screw on then you will be able to get one with 12 or 13 teeth; if it is a cassette then you will be able to get one with 11 teeth.

Is it a road or a mountain bike that you have?

plumAJP

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Thursday 5th January 2012
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It's a road bike mate

plumAJP

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218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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It's a road bike mate

plumAJP

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218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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It's a road bike mate

Rouleur

7,415 posts

218 months

Thursday 5th January 2012
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What is it? hehe

TBH I think you'd be best off taking it to a bike shop as as mentioned it may won't be easy to find parts for something like this. It'll need to be an old fashioned shop with old fashioned staff rather than an Evans or similar.

thiscocks

3,398 posts

224 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Another option is to file off 5 of the teeth on the smallest sprocket and voila! you have a 10t sprocket!

louiebaby

10,948 posts

220 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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thiscocks said:
Another option is to file off 5 of the teeth on the smallest sprocket and voila! you have a 10t sprocket!
Just before you go and do something stupid, make sure it's every 3rd tooth, not 5 all together...

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M400 NBL

3,552 posts

241 months

Friday 6th January 2012
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Large chain ring on the front, and if possible on your bike, a conker block (close ration small sprockets)on the back. But you may be restricted by your 7 speed cassette.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 7th January 2012
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easier to put a bigger chainwheel on the front

also that is less likely to require a new chain, new sprockets almost certainly will need a new chain too