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GB145

Original Poster:

84 posts

268 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Hello all I've been lurking round the bike banter forum for a while and have finally decieded to step out. I'm new to to biking and will hopefully getting my new bike soon but realise that I need to get a few things to go with it. I have already got the clothing gloves boot etc which I have used few threads for.

On my list is a ground anchor and maybe chain, Cat 1 alarm and a disk lock does anyone have any recomendations of which ones to go for and which ones the insurance company will like I would be very grateful.

Many thanks

Grant

fergus

6,430 posts

291 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Grant,

The best thing you can do is physically immobilise the bike (ground anchor, chain, etc). Things like datatool alarms are very easy to de-install - you can do it yourself in half an hour if you've got a multi-meter with you. Don't let the thing go walkies in the first place.

Make sure you buy a good strong lock (& padlock). Get the best you can afford. Personally, I don't think alarms are worth a toss, but then the insurance companies do tend to like them. It's easy to put a bike in the back of a van with the alarm going off & you're away within 10 secs of first seeing the bike.

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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Ive got a Motrax Ground Hog cemented in groud anchor, and an Oxford Hardcore (thatcham approved) chain which i loop through the frame of the bike. Ive also got an Oxford Omega disklok.

S2rr Kitty

11,876 posts

267 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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As you mention that your insurers are playing a part in your purchase decision, it's always worth checking that they recognise the product you are intending to purchase.

Small thing to note, if you do go for a ground anchor make sure you don't leave any slack chain on the garage floor - this was pointed out in a 'RIDE' test - that the chains were generally weaker than the ground anchor & if they were long & left draped along the floor they could be smashed easily.

A

stooz

3,005 posts

300 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Motopro_Ground_Anchor.html
this thing is bullet proof!! basically anything with sold secure should be an insurance discount, and secure!!

www.motohaus.com/acatalog/Squire_Stronghold.html

The alliance lock and chain (ML2) is recognised by some firms, I got 5% off with it. The lock doubles as a disk lock, I have a 1.8m chain red one you can have for £100 instead of the listed £149? and a defender ground anchor in stock..

have a look at my site for other alarms and locks.
I offer discounts to PHers..


>> Edited by stooz on Friday 2nd July 12:13

Steve_T

6,356 posts

288 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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I bought a Rotalok Inturn, which I concreted into the floor of the garage. A bit more of a pain to fit (hire a breaker from HSS), but you won't trip over the thing and a it's bit more secure again than units you raw bolt into the ground.

Steve.

jvaughan

6,025 posts

299 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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I put my own ground anchor in .... 3 foot deep, and spans an area of about 50 cm radius ... A solid steel eyelet, attached to re-enforcing wire concreted in my drive. to get it out you would have to rip out half of the drive.
I also have an Oxford disc lock, and an English Chains 2Meter chain around the bike, the ground anchor and one of the load bearing pillars of the front of the house. (If they cut through the pillar, I have been reliably told the front of the house will collapse!)

fergus

6,430 posts

291 months

Friday 2nd July 2004
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jvaughan said:
I put my own ground anchor in .... 3 foot deep, and spans an area of about 50 cm radius ... A solid steel eyelet, attached to re-enforcing wire concreted in my drive. to get it out you would have to rip out half of the drive.
I also have an Oxford disc lock, and an English Chains 2Meter chain around the bike, the ground anchor and one of the load bearing pillars of the front of the house. (If they cut through the pillar, I have been reliably told the front of the house will collapse!)


But apart from that, it's got no security

GB145

Original Poster:

84 posts

268 months

Saturday 3rd July 2004
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Thanks for all the replies its given me a few more things to look at. Stooz I may well be getting in touch with you regarding that lock and chain, can you also supply that ground anchor that you provided the link for? Mail me through my profile if you wish.

Grant

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

279 months

Wednesday 7th July 2004
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Just looked at your site Stooz - you've got some good kit on there, I may have to order some stuff.

I have a suggestion though mate - your website could do with a redesign, its not the most appealing to the eye. By complete coincidence (lol) im a website/graphic designer - if you fancy getting the front end redone to look nice, drop me a mail.

Dave

stooz

3,005 posts

300 months

Wednesday 7th July 2004
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I wrote that myself, had a few comments on how easy it was to navigate ya cheeky bugga

no offence taken tho, happy to listen to opinion, I will drop you a mail..

for info: the monster sold secure chain (£140) and ground anchor (£64.99) sold to a PHer(delivered!) for under £160..

GB145

Original Poster:

84 posts

268 months

Wednesday 7th July 2004
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I found the site quite easy to navigate actually and didn't have a problem.

Stooz are you going to be expanding the site as one of the items you are supplying me isn't on your site or did I miss it?

Let me know if you want any photo's when I get the item installed or a review and I will get it organised.

Grant

stooz

3,005 posts

300 months

Wednesday 7th July 2004
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I will be adding it soon. Certainly been a popular anchor. I have a load of products to go on...