No excuses now. 60 yr old man does 700 push ups a day!
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RemainAllHoof said:
Lost_BMW said:
Pretty impressive - who needs weights eh? 
Well, it does make me wonder. Could you get a decent physique just by doing s
t loads of pull ups and press ups... and nothing else?I was being tongue in cheek and weights will very probably help, speed up the process and maybe build bigger muscles but there are people who say they don't do weights who look good and can do some amazing things.
A while back I read about some group in America who do all sorts of body weight, climbing and cable type work and claimed not to do weights and they looked like pro athletes.
To be honest I've gone off weights a lot despite loving training years back, have sold loads and am now wondering about getting rid of the rest and just doing bodyweight stuff (if only my weight weren't such an issue!)
Lost_BMW said:
I am absolutely convinced that some people have/can. A mix of other forms of training can build lean, muscled and 'effective' physiques.
I was being tongue in cheek and weights will very probably help, speed up the process and maybe build bigger muscles but there are people who say they don't do weights who look good and can do some amazing things.
A while back I read about some group in America who do all sorts of body weight, climbing and cable type work and claimed not to do weights and they looked like pro athletes.
To be honest I've gone off weights a lot despite loving training years back, have sold loads and am now wondering about getting rid of the rest and just doing bodyweight stuff (if only my weight weren't such an issue!)
Would be interesting to see what happens if you're willing to put the effort in.I was being tongue in cheek and weights will very probably help, speed up the process and maybe build bigger muscles but there are people who say they don't do weights who look good and can do some amazing things.
A while back I read about some group in America who do all sorts of body weight, climbing and cable type work and claimed not to do weights and they looked like pro athletes.
To be honest I've gone off weights a lot despite loving training years back, have sold loads and am now wondering about getting rid of the rest and just doing bodyweight stuff (if only my weight weren't such an issue!)
HonestIago said:
I'd question whether our 60yo friend is chemically assisted or not. (Not saying he is but one cant be sure) However, you can build a decent upper body with pullups, pushups and dips if you do an enormous amount of volume.
By volume, you mean lots of reps. How many a day?RemainAllHoof said:
HonestIago said:
I'd question whether our 60yo friend is chemically assisted or not. (Not saying he is but one cant be sure) However, you can build a decent upper body with pullups, pushups and dips if you do an enormous amount of volume.
By volume, you mean lots of reps. How many a day?I do both and have noticed that doing 30 or 60 second sets of free squats during a workout - sandwiched between other stuff, maybe 5 to 10 sets a session, so up to around 500 a session - has made my legs/glutes/hams more sore than when I was up to 1000+ non stop in the summer, which had gotten to the point where it hardly bothered me.
I can hardly sit or pick anything up after Tuesday's session. My thighs have also become notably bigger and more swept in the last month.
RemainAllHoof said:
HonestIago said:
I'd question whether our 60yo friend is chemically assisted or not. (Not saying he is but one cant be sure) However, you can build a decent upper body with pullups, pushups and dips if you do an enormous amount of volume.
By volume, you mean lots of reps. How many a day?Its all relative, but to induce that kind of muscular hypertrophy with bodyweight exercises alone you're talking a LOT!
Depends on your current level of relative strength what a good initial volume to shoot for would be. For example I can do 20+ pullups, 50-60 pushups (at least) and maybe 40 dips. If I were to switch to training ONLY bodyweight exercises I'd probably start at 50 pullups per day and 200 pushups/dips.
bry1975 said:
Does anyone think as an example Elton John would have the muscle genetics of say Arnold Schwarzenegger!?
Well, then the question is this: is it impossible for everyone to train for a body building competition even if they put the dedication in with their training and diet (but no illegal substances allowed)?shouldbworking said:
I could easily do 700 a day. In sets of 1.
You must be powerfully built then......
Anyhow, age is no barrier to fitness:-
http://freepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wakefield/...
RemainAllHoof said:
Well, then the question is this: is it impossible for everyone to train for a body building competition even if they put the dedication in with their training and diet (but no illegal substances allowed)?
That's an interesting one. I've trained with people who seemed to have no potential; tall, long limbed, skinny and very weak and yet a few years later were behemoths (though I know - or I'm sure - substances were involved in that in a couple of cases) and yet others who trained and ate the same way and seemed to get nowhere once the initial gains were made and a plateau hit.Then there were a couple who you could just tell 'had it' even from the start - the way they responded right from the off - and sure, enough went on to win contests (one with, one without steroids).
Both joined us as training partners for a while and grew so quickly. One, without steroids, won his debut contest weighing a nearly ripped 15 stone at 5'7" within a year or so of starting. It seemed pretty amazing at the time and we thought we'd been around/seen everything! Another became a pretty successful multi-competition winning pro on the NABBA circuits etc. Fair enough he was/must still be obsessed and ate right, trained regularly and hard, if a bit haphazardly in those days, but we just knew if he stuck at it he would surpass us all.
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