weird restarting weirdness with weird bits
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Right.. thought this was the battery, but now don't.
I keep the battery on an accumate conditioner, so always in tip top condition. The conditioner says it's fine.
Car starts fine and I go for my wee drive.
Whenever I stop the car for some reason (to buy a paper, etc), when I go to restart it 9/10 it will really really struggle to turn over sort of as if the battery is shafted.
It then will procede to not tick over for the next couple of minutes, stalling all the time unless I keep manually reving it to 2K or so.
All symptoms of a knackered battery so far.
After 2 minutes or so I'll get to a set of lights and it's fine again, ticking over normally.
I have been having horrible thoughts that when hot and mobil is like water, that maybe a restart from hot is griding metal by metal, and this is what it is.
But I dunno, sounds far fetched, and oil level is fine, etc.
I mean, OK it could be the battery I suppose.. but it is running fine, alternator looks like it is working (lcd battery voltage wise... though this seems to be pretty irratic.. varying from under 12v - 15v....).
But, as I say the point is, you'll go though this, and after 10 minutes or so stop the car again, but this time it'll start fine !! Lights are strong with car off, etc. Accumulate gets it back to full in a couple of hours to clearly wasn't a drained battery.
Just doesn't seem like any sort of knackered battery syndrome I've ever come across.
Anyway need to get it fixed as it doesn't do your street cred any favours.. Also while reving it to keep it from stalling today I cooked the clutch a bit on a hill and smelt the dreaded burning smell. oops.
So.. looking for thoughts? If general concensus is a battery, fine I'll get one but it's only 2 years old.
stu
I keep the battery on an accumate conditioner, so always in tip top condition. The conditioner says it's fine.
Car starts fine and I go for my wee drive.
Whenever I stop the car for some reason (to buy a paper, etc), when I go to restart it 9/10 it will really really struggle to turn over sort of as if the battery is shafted.
It then will procede to not tick over for the next couple of minutes, stalling all the time unless I keep manually reving it to 2K or so.
All symptoms of a knackered battery so far.
After 2 minutes or so I'll get to a set of lights and it's fine again, ticking over normally.
I have been having horrible thoughts that when hot and mobil is like water, that maybe a restart from hot is griding metal by metal, and this is what it is.
But I dunno, sounds far fetched, and oil level is fine, etc.
I mean, OK it could be the battery I suppose.. but it is running fine, alternator looks like it is working (lcd battery voltage wise... though this seems to be pretty irratic.. varying from under 12v - 15v....).
But, as I say the point is, you'll go though this, and after 10 minutes or so stop the car again, but this time it'll start fine !! Lights are strong with car off, etc. Accumulate gets it back to full in a couple of hours to clearly wasn't a drained battery.
Just doesn't seem like any sort of knackered battery syndrome I've ever come across.
Anyway need to get it fixed as it doesn't do your street cred any favours.. Also while reving it to keep it from stalling today I cooked the clutch a bit on a hill and smelt the dreaded burning smell. oops.
So.. looking for thoughts? If general concensus is a battery, fine I'll get one but it's only 2 years old.
stu
oh yeh. the other thing is, it wasn't doing this until I left the lights on one weekend in the garage which drained the battery absolutely.
It wouldn't even charge up with the accumate. I had to fast charge it a bit, slow charge it a bit, etc.. took a week to bring it back to charge.
As I'm writing this it is becoming increasingly obvious that more things point to the battery than not.... erm.. probably the battery ?
stu
It wouldn't even charge up with the accumate. I had to fast charge it a bit, slow charge it a bit, etc.. took a week to bring it back to charge.
As I'm writing this it is becoming increasingly obvious that more things point to the battery than not.... erm.. probably the battery ?
stu
Its the battery. It's stuffed.
What is happening is when you start the car the battery just has enough power to start the car but by using ALL the power to start the car the power is sucked out of the ECU at the same time, causing it to re-set which causes the rough running for a few minutes while it thinks about things.
Get a new battery and all will be fine.
cheers
Whitey
PS. I had the same problem so hence know the above!
What is happening is when you start the car the battery just has enough power to start the car but by using ALL the power to start the car the power is sucked out of the ECU at the same time, causing it to re-set which causes the rough running for a few minutes while it thinks about things.
Get a new battery and all will be fine.
cheers
Whitey
PS. I had the same problem so hence know the above!
. It's good to know that answers can be found to some tricky problems on here!
Stu, I had the same when I bought the car. It was the battery, and that's why I bought a new one.
I was also told that early tuscans can chew batteries and spit them out in 6 months.
If you want to make sure, a dealer can do a 'voltage drop test' on the battery for you. This is what I had done, and it was the battery stuffed.
Mr F
I was also told that early tuscans can chew batteries and spit them out in 6 months.
If you want to make sure, a dealer can do a 'voltage drop test' on the battery for you. This is what I had done, and it was the battery stuffed.
Mr F
cool. the battery then.
next question:
is it a dealer only job or can I buy it and fit it myself ? farting about getting lifts to/from the dealer is a pain so would be easier if I can get the battery from somewhere.
what's the name of that tvr parts site that does everything from indicators to panels ?
stu
next question:
is it a dealer only job or can I buy it and fit it myself ? farting about getting lifts to/from the dealer is a pain so would be easier if I can get the battery from somewhere.
what's the name of that tvr parts site that does everything from indicators to panels ?
stu
Mine too does the same thing, had the battery tested and it was ok.
Turns out to be a starter motor problem. One top tip on the Tuscan is when you start it have the throttle pedal to the floor. This opens all the throttles up and causes less resistance to fire it up. Be shure to lift off straight away!
Turns out to be a starter motor problem. One top tip on the Tuscan is when you start it have the throttle pedal to the floor. This opens all the throttles up and causes less resistance to fire it up. Be shure to lift off straight away!
powerlord said:
cool. the battery then.
next question:
is it a dealer only job or can I buy it and fit it myself ? farting about getting lifts to/from the dealer is a pain so would be easier if I can get the battery from somewhere.
what's the name of that tvr parts site that does everything from indicators to panels ?
stu
www.tvrgear.co.uk
ianf said:
Mine too does the same thing, had the battery tested and it was ok.
Turns out to be a starter motor problem. One top tip on the Tuscan is when you start it have the throttle pedal to the floor. This opens all the throttles up and causes less resistance to fire it up. Be shure to lift off straight away!
what was solution ? new starter motor ?
also, throttle to the floor is the opposite of advice I've been given for starting.. seems like you'd be risking flooding it that way ??
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