An all in one filter set up for my current gear
An all in one filter set up for my current gear
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dxbtiger

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Parents are enquiring what to send me over for Chrimbo, filter(s) seem like an obvious choice.

Having just had a quick trawl through the Jessops site I am a little unsure what to request, perhaps I am not looking in the right place.

Current glass line up is
18-105 Nikon kit (67mm)
24-70 Sigma 2.8 (82mm)
50 1.8 Nikon (52mm)

The Sigma 2.8 was acquired recently as a higher quality walkabout than the kit lens but it seems to have a limited number of screw on filters as it is quite big.

In terms of what I wanted, ND grad for landscapes, sunsets and sunrises etc, an ND for long exposures for a trip to Canada next year (waterfalls and stuff, is ND4 enough?) and maybe a circular polariser.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a filter kit which will be a holder rather than screw on that will at least fit on both the Sigma and the 18-105 as I can't see me needing them to go onto the 50mm.

Next addition is likely to be a 10-20 (77mm) so it will fit that as well if there is such a thing.

TIA

dxbtiger

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Cokin P series with 82mm and 67mm adapter seems to be what I am after

Gad-Westy

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242 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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If a 10-20 is on the menu, I would look at the 100mm kits. Which kit you go for is entirely up to you. They all take the same 100mm filters. Choice seems to be Lee, Hitech or Cokin Z. I ended up going for a Lee Foundation Kit. Am I right in saying that your Sigma lens has a 77mm thread? If so, go for a 77mm wide angle adaptor. That way you're covered if you do for the sigma 10-20 (same thread size). The normal adaptors are cheaper and should be fine for your other lenses.

I personally couldn't stretch to Lee prices for the actual filters. I've gone with Hitech which seems pretty good and are typically about half the price. You'd be best going for 100x150mm grads as it gives you a bit of leeway in terms of where the grad line is positioned. I went for 3 stop hard and soft grads (hard is used 90% of the time) though would quite like 2 stops of each as well in an ideal world. I went the whole hog and got a hitech 10 stop ND but they do a full range, again I'd like something a little less severe as well. Depends what effect you're actually after with your waterfalls, i.e. a little movement or full on milk. 2 or 3 stops might work alright for the former.

By the way, for sunsets and sunrises, I was recommended a reverse grad. Haven't bought one yet but they do make sense.

Where things get expensive is with a polariser. With the Lee kit, you need a polariser adaptor which doesn't cost too much but you'll then need a 105mm circular polariser. As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as a cheap one. I went with a hitcech one again for £100 or so. Heliopans, B&W's and Lee's are all about twice that.

All adds up I'm afraid but it does open up a whole new world of photography.

dxbtiger

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4,546 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Gad-Westy said:
If a 10-20 is on the menu, I would look at the 100mm kits. Which kit you go for is entirely up to you. They all take the same 100mm filters. Choice seems to be Lee, Hitech or Cokin Z. I ended up going for a Lee Foundation Kit. Am I right in saying that your Sigma lens has a 77mm thread? If so, go for a 77mm wide angle adaptor. That way you're covered if you do for the sigma 10-20 (same thread size). The normal adaptors are cheaper and should be fine for your other lenses.

I personally couldn't stretch to Lee prices for the actual filters. I've gone with Hitech which seems pretty good and are typically about half the price. You'd be best going for 100x150mm grads as it gives you a bit of leeway in terms of where the grad line is positioned. I went for 3 stop hard and soft grads (hard is used 90% of the time) though would quite like 2 stops of each as well in an ideal world. I went the whole hog and got a hitech 10 stop ND but they do a full range, again I'd like something a little less severe as well. Depends what effect you're actually after with your waterfalls, i.e. a little movement or full on milk. 2 or 3 stops might work alright for the former.

By the way, for sunsets and sunrises, I was recommended a reverse grad. Haven't bought one yet but they do make sense.

Where things get expensive is with a polariser. With the Lee kit, you need a polariser adaptor which doesn't cost too much but you'll then need a 105mm circular polariser. As far as I can tell, there is no such thing as a cheap one. I went with a hitcech one again for £100 or so. Heliopans, B&W's and Lee's are all about twice that.

All adds up I'm afraid but it does open up a whole new world of photography.
Current Sigma is 82mm, the 10-20 is 77mm which is why I thought the P series would suffice, goes up to 82mm unless I am missing something obvious?

Just looking at the vast array of filters available, they certainly do add up!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Maxim-adapter-49mm-82mm-Ad...

Would cover most bases going forward I think and then some.

Then it is just a case of choosing a grad, ND and perhaps a pol.


Gad-Westy

16,568 posts

242 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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The problem with the smaller filters is that on a wide angle you can end up physically seeing the filter holder on the pictures. The holder will protrude a few mm in front of the lens or up to about 15mm if you have circ polariser fitted. I use the 100mm filters with my 11mm tokina lens. At it widest, I can't use a cpl with another filter without either significant vignetting or black corners. If you don't use wide angles you might be fine but maybe worth spending the extra now to future proof yourself.

dxbtiger

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4,546 posts

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Sunday 20th November 2011
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Gad-Westy said:
The problem with the smaller filters is that on a wide angle you can end up physically seeing the filter holder on the pictures. The holder will protrude a few mm in front of the lens or up to about 15mm if you have circ polariser fitted. I use the 100mm filters with my 11mm tokina lens. At it widest, I can't use a cpl with another filter without either significant vignetting or black corners. If you don't use wide angles you might be fine but maybe worth spending the extra now to future proof yourself.
I see, tbh the choice is a little bewildering... *sigh*

Makes sense re vignetting, and with a 10-20 on the horizon you are right.

  • heads back off to start looking at z-pro*

Gad-Westy

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242 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Certainly is bewildering! These are threads I asked on the same subject. Hopefully should be of some help.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread...

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1053619

dxbtiger

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4,546 posts

202 months

Sunday 20th November 2011
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Gad-Westy said:
Certainly is bewildering! These are threads I asked on the same subject. Hopefully should be of some help.

http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread...

http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=1053619
Awesome, I'll trawl through those tomorrow, bed time now.

Cheers