Used All Mountain Bikes Value
Used All Mountain Bikes Value
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AndrewEH1

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4,922 posts

182 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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Hey,

I'm found an Orange Five for sale. It has a good spec and looks to be in good condition. I'm not sure of the year but I have a feeling that it is a 2011 Five S. The owner obviously added a few optional extras via Orange.

Apparently it was bought orginally for £3,200

After a year what is the depreciation of a bike of that value after one owner and at least six months.

I'm only used to the trials market were used values for top spec bikes can be around 60% off retail (For obvious reasons!), but even DH and AM bikes must suffer a similar, but maybe not as high, depreciation.

Cheers for any help regarding this.

Edited by AndrewEH1 on Wednesday 9th November 15:01

Gooby

9,269 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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AndrewEH1 said:
Hey,

I'm found an Orange Five for sale. It has a good spec and looks to be in good condition. I'm not sure of the year but I have a feeling that it is a 2011 Five S. The owner obviously added a few optional extras via Orange.

Apparently it was bought orginally for £3,200

After a year what is the depreciation of a bike of that value after one owner and at least six months.

I'm only used to the trials market were used values for top spec bikes can be around 60% off retail (For obvious reasons!), but even DH and AM bikes must suffer a similar, but maybe not as high, depreciation.

Cheers for any help regarding this.

Edited by AndrewEH1 on Wednesday 9th November 15:01
As an Orange 5 owner they are a marmite bike. Make sure you like before you buy.
You can check the year quite easily. The latest frame has a tapered head tube ISCG tabs and the seat tube is a larger diameter for droppers. The previous frame was the same geo but without the list above.

My riding buddy sold a 2010 model worth £3500 purchase for £1800 at a year old. It WAS VERY cheap!

For a 6 month old bike at that price I would expect to pay between £2k to £2.5k dependent on condition. I am on my second '5. It is important to get talas forks. 5's can be a more difficult than some bikes to get up a hill. Dropping the forks makes this easy and probably easier than many other bikes.

P-Jay

11,402 posts

220 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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It used to be said that 50% in the first year and 10% per year there after was a pretty good yard stick, but it's not so true anymore.

Recession means more people are prepared to buy 'pre loved' bikes now, especially if they're popular models in good nick.

I recently sold a 5 year old, battered looking (but mechanically perfect) Spesh Enduro for £900 (in parts admittedly) it was 'only' £2k back in 2006!

Not sure in this case, I'm not one of the 'Five Faithful' but low to mid two's if he's lucky, I recently saw a lightly used Lap Spicy 316 sell on eBay for about the price you can buy new for in the end of season sales.

AndrewEH1

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4,922 posts

182 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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Gooby said:
As an Orange 5 owner they are a marmite bike. Make sure you like before you buy.
You can check the year quite easily. The latest frame has a tapered head tube ISCG tabs and the seat tube is a larger diameter for droppers. The previous frame was the same geo but without the list above.

My riding buddy sold a 2010 model worth £3500 purchase for £1800 at a year old. It WAS VERY cheap!

For a 6 month old bike at that price I would expect to pay between £2k to £2.5k dependent on condition. I am on my second '5. It is important to get talas forks. 5's can be a more difficult than some bikes to get up a hill. Dropping the forks makes this easy and probably easier than many other bikes.
Cheers for the input, very useful.

I have tried the Five, love it, and the fact it is 'built' in Britain and use of Hope part appeal to me as well. Going to test the one I'm after aswell as it's been a while since I was off road.

It does have the Fox Talas forks which makes this more desirable.

AndrewEH1

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4,922 posts

182 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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P-Jay said:
It used to be said that 50% in the first year and 10% per year there after was a pretty good yard stick, but it's not so true anymore.
That is what I was thinking about, and it is still used in Trials although they can drop down to around 40% after a year of abuse.

Jimbo.

4,215 posts

218 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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It does have the Fox Talas forks which makes this more desirable.

As it's S/H, find out what you can re. how often they've been serviced, inspect the uppers thoroughly and check for any creaking and whatnot from the crown/steerer. Fox forks are utter st IMO: fragile and unreliable. Uppers wear, CSUs fail and damping internals blow.

Gooby

9,269 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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AndrewEH1 said:
Cheers for the input, very useful.

I have tried the Five, love it, and the fact it is 'built' in Britain and use of Hope part appeal to me as well. Going to test the one I'm after aswell as it's been a while since I was off road.

It does have the Fox Talas forks which makes this more desirable.
There have been problems with the Maxel lite rears but that can be solved with the new Maxel, apart from that they are bomb proof.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

238 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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I nearly got run over by a big group of MTBers when I was walking in Epping Forest over the weekend. They were >all< riding Oranges.

/apropos of not a lot

Beyond Rational

3,544 posts

244 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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Sometimes bikes of this ilk see almost zero use before being sold; they might only get a monthly visit to a trail centre.

Other users of these bikes will rag the hell out of them, 50+ miles a week off road.

The former will be like a new bike, the latter, most definitely used. It would all depend on this.

Gooby

9,269 posts

263 months

Wednesday 9th November 2011
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Beyond Rational said:
Sometimes bikes of this ilk see almost zero use before being sold; they might only get a monthly visit to a trail centre.

Other users of these bikes will rag the hell out of them, 50+ miles a week off road.

The former will be like a new bike, the latter, most definitely used. It would all depend on this.
My '5 SE (Special "SE" Badge and all) sees over 70 miles a week nearly all off road. No expence is spared and she feels better than when new. I have seen "once a week" bikes that were forever getting punctures and bearings failing etc. You cant judge a bike by the hours spent, go for the love and time invested.

duff

1,049 posts

228 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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P-Jay said:
I recently sold a 5 year old, battered looking (but mechanically perfect) Spesh Enduro for £900 (in parts admittedly) it was 'only' £2k back in 2006!
The 05-6 Enduro isn't representative of the market as they have an almost classic status now. I sold my 05 S-Works Enduro in 06 for £1250 (and it took a while) yet I see similar Enduros now selling for around £1k. Wish I'd kept hold of it!!

MC Bodge

29,617 posts

204 months

Thursday 10th November 2011
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Lots of 'used' mountain bikes have not really been used hard as a lot of people buy them, but very few ride them very often or beyond a smooth FC trail centre (ie. No-Mountain rather than All-Mountain), so there are bargains to be had. Bearings can corrode if moisture gets into them, but are not expensive or that difficult to change (usually).

Orange 5s are popular and hold their value.

-Kona frames are not fashionable, but very good value second hand.

I have a used Kona Dawg frame with used RS Pikes, a used DHX 5.0 coil and my trusty Hope/Mavic 321s and it is superb.

It isn't exactly light, but it handles any sort of trail (including UK definition mountains) and can be ridden uphill.

Edited by MC Bodge on Thursday 10th November 20:22