Knockhill - this weekend!

Knockhill - this weekend!

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jamesc

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2,820 posts

289 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Contray to rumour, I am NOT going to Knockhill this weekend as I am still having treatment to my back. However is anyone going?

davefiddes

846 posts

265 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Yep. I'll be going. Should be good. There's quite a varied programme I think. It's our round of Formula Woman I think...is it just me or is the name really naff and a bit patronising? OTOH anything that encourages more lady petrolheads to go racing (or track days) is a good thing.

Should be more info/gossip on http://scotracing.proboards4.com/ soon.

jamesc

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2,820 posts

289 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Hi Dave,

I was last at Knockhill for the TVR Tuscan races last month. Richard Francis took some great pictures.

www.richardfrancis.tk

regards

James

coramlmp

163 posts

268 months

Thursday 24th June 2004
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I'll be there on the Saturday, testing the LMP.

Steve
www.turner-auto-design.com

jamesc

Original Poster:

2,820 posts

289 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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davefiddes said:
Yep. I'll be going. Should be good. There's quite a varied programme I think. It's our round of Formula Woman I think...is it just me or is the name really naff and a bit patronising? OTOH anything that encourages more lady petrolheads to go racing (or track days) is a good thing.

Should be more info/gossip on http://scotracing.proboards4.com/ soon.


Hi Dave,

You were right about the gossip! Did you go to Knockhill and watch the FW race?

James

davefiddes

846 posts

265 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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jamesc said:
You were right about the gossip! Did you go to Knockhill and watch the FW race?


Yep. Both of the FW rounds were pretty good. Unusually for a new one make series they were all pretty close and driving standards were pretty good with only a little argy bargy. The cars weren't particularly spectacular could do with a more powerful engine (I think it's the bottom ofthe range RX8 they use ) and tyres with bigger sidewalls so they can get sideways without it all just breaking away. At least the cars are RWD...much better than the Scottish Minis.

The commentator was a totally patronising git however. They could do with losing him. There are some other interesting commments on FW over at SCR.



Best race of the day for me was the "fast" Sports and Saloons race. Cracking grid with 7 Radicals and Brian Sarafilovic in the Prosport 3000 (baby Ultima - so guess who I was cheering on). Good field of old Jag XKs as well...very nice.

Ian Forrest had the car in front with the kick stand:

KJR

795 posts

270 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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Was also at Knockhill yesterday, flag marshal at McIntyres just down from Duffes were all the "contact" was.

I think the commentator is "part of the FW package" and is there to sell it. I assume this is the case as one of his early comments was that they were as fast as the TVR Tuscans round Knockhill - that'l be right.

Did my own lap times and the leader was averaging 66sec laps. Cannot remember what the Tuscans were doing but am sure it was the low 50s.

One went off into the tyre wall at McIntyres and, according to the female track marshal who went to the drivers aid, the driver had nothing to learn from male drivers in the bad language department .


KJR

gdr

587 posts

265 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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Excuse my ignorance, but what sort of vehicles are the FW ladies driving?

KJR

795 posts

270 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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Mazda RX8.

All Silver, which makes marshalling their races a little difficult.

KJR

davefiddes

846 posts

265 months

Monday 28th June 2004
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KJR said:
Did my own lap times and the leader was averaging 66sec laps. Cannot remember what the Tuscans were doing but am sure it was the low 50s.


I had a quick look on the SMART website and the record for TVRs is 63.59. The FW record was 66.01 which is about what you figured. Which explains what the guy was on about... The thing is the record is from 2001 at the GT meeting...which was seriously wet...and SMART haven't done the race timing for other TVR meetings since.

fergusd

1,247 posts

275 months

Tuesday 29th June 2004
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Being able to do 63's in my elise in the dry . . . I suspect the tuscan timing is somewhat incorrect . . .

Fd

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th June 2004
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Tuscan times are much lower. Qualifying times this year were in the low 52s - Richard Hay 52.233

All the grubby details here.

jamesc

Original Poster:

2,820 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th June 2004
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KJR said:


I think the commentator is "part of the FW package" and is there to sell it. I assume this is the case as one of his early comments was that they were as fast as the TVR Tuscans round Knockhill - that'l be right.



The commentator was Brian Jones who is normally found at Brands Hatch. The statement about being faster than TVR Tuscans is absolute claptrap. More Formula Woman spin from the Iraqi Information Minister.

As for Richard Hay, I wonder if he will edit this out of the TV coverage???

I hear the Scottish Formula Ford race was good and the Scottish Legends were brilliant as usual.

James

davefiddes

846 posts

265 months

Tuesday 29th June 2004
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fergusd said:
Being able to do 63's in my elise in the dry . . . I suspect the tuscan timing is somewhat incorrect . . .


There was a good inch of standing water on railway straight that Sunday. It was more like powerboat racing than motor racing. I'm surprised that anything managed to set anything like a representative time. AFAIK it was the wettest race meeting at KH to have not been cancelled...

dexter

4 posts

245 months

Tuesday 29th June 2004
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basically a standard RX8 (231PS model), stripped interior with the usual motorsport items (cage, seat, harness, fire supression etc). Standard wheels with Avon ZZ3 tyres.

gdr said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what sort of vehicles are the FW ladies driving?

jamesc

Original Poster:

2,820 posts

289 months

Tuesday 29th June 2004
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I heard Sarah Playfair had a good race in the Scottish Formula Ford race. She also had a few comments to make about FW!

Sounds like Sarah is another Susie Stoddartd!

James

Ghirlracer

3 posts

243 months

Wednesday 30th June 2004
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(Cheers for the plugging, Dave! )

I never realised there was another forum which had any coverage of the racing at Knockhill - I'll have to visit this place more often now I know it exists!

Anyway, I see FWoman is the talking point over here as well... my views of the concept have already been covered elsewhere, so I won't repeat them, but I have to say the spectacle itself didn't impress me much either. I'll admit to not watching either race in full (arrived too late for the first one, and wanted to sit down for a break by the time of the second), but I did see a few laps of each, and really wasn't too impressed.

The cars seemed slow and ponderous (a bit like the Minis but without the squealing tyres to at least show that the drivers are trying!), and the racing didn't appear very close, with the drivers all strung out in a line by the hairpin on lap 1 of race 2. Given that, I think that commentator was being a little overenthusiastic with all his plugging of it, because it really wasn't that good