Another one for the dentists
Another one for the dentists
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TheGreatSoprendo

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5,288 posts

278 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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My wife went to the dentist today and he told her she needs root canal treatement. Apparently she can have NHS treatment for £47 or private treatment for £150. It'll be the same dentist doing the work, but apprently he told her he'd prefer her to go for the private treatment because it's "better quality". He didn't explain what "better quality" meant but I'm struggling to understand how the treatment can be that much different if it's the same dentist doing it (although to be honest I don't fully understand what root canal treatment entails).

Any advice much appreciated as she's struggling to work out what to do for the best.

Chicarito

1,017 posts

180 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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I think I'd be looking for another dentist if he thinks he can do shoddy work just because it's on the NHS.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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Root cancal usually involves drilling out the inside of the tooth and taking out the nerves and then filling it all back in

the main difference may well be the filling materials they use to fill the teeth back in.


blueg33

46,279 posts

253 months

Thursday 3rd November 2011
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The dentist may also be limited on the amount or type of tools they can use on the NHS. I just had a root canal done privately and the dentist had to use quite a few specialised hand files which she implied were expensive and wouldn't normally be used. (Tooth had a curved root so needed special bendy files that don't break)

Driller

8,310 posts

307 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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On the NHS he'll get paid peanuts. Doing it privately he gets paid at least what he is worth.

Think how it would affect your work if you were offered two completely different sums (one working out to a fair bit less than your hourly rate) to do a task.

MacGee

2,513 posts

259 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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The fee paid on NHS is a joke. All the little instruments used must be dispoed of as we'll all catch vCJD...totally unproven but DOH deemed this essential practice. Thus making this a very difficult procedure to perform well cheaply. The private kit is more effectice at cleaning and filling. Thus making the outcome more predictable. Pay cheap...get cheap!

BTW..£150 isnt too pricey.

Sonic

4,008 posts

236 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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MacGee said:
BTW..£150 isnt too pricey.
£150?! yikes

I wish i could have paid that privately for all mine! Best part of £300 each!

Maxf

8,443 posts

270 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Driller said:
On the NHS he'll get paid peanuts. Doing it privately he gets paid at least what he is worth.

Think how it would affect your work if you were offered two completely different sums (one working out to a fair bit less than your hourly rate) to do a task.
I wouldnt take on a job which didnt pay me enough - its just not good business as corners get cut and everybody ends up feeling let down. Not an attack on you BTW.

MacGee

2,513 posts

259 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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Sonic said:
MacGee said:
BTW..£150 isnt too pricey.
£150?! yikes

I wish i could have paid that privately for all mine! Best part of £300 each!
exactly!!

pauldavies85

423 posts

215 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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I do slot of root canal on the nhs, why? I enjoy it and always trying to better myself, plus I don't pay for the materials as I'm not the practice owner.
£150 is a very fair price, and basically will allow him to use the materials he would like to on the nhs, oh and more time!

Anything between 300-500 is going rate depending on tooth etc.

My advised would be go with it if she likes her current dentist, he's not trying to rip you off. To put it in perspective, it typically costs 70-100 to run the surgery for an hour, let alone the specific material costs. The ni/ti file cost £5 a pop, you may use 5-8!
See that £120 is actually not going far to his mortgage payments at all, but more to cover costs.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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dont give us the dentists are not making money line!

Guffy

2,369 posts

294 months

Friday 4th November 2011
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£150! I was £400 for the canal treatment and £400 for the crown, must be Aberdeen prices!

pauldavies85

423 posts

215 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Well if you think you can make an ounce of profit on £120 for 70-90 mins worth of work be my guest.


okgo

42,071 posts

227 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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I had mine done for £50 on the Nhs. Was fine, he implied that the only thing that would be better would be the crown, but seeing as he didn't need to replace my existing crown it was all good.

When it comes to a new crown I may well buy the one that looks best.

MacGee

2,513 posts

259 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Problem is poor root canal equals rubbish crown! Don't skimp on the former!

Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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pauldavies85 said:
Well if you think you can make an ounce of profit on £120 for 70-90 mins worth of work be my guest.
As a one man band maybe not, but spreading the costs over a few chairs and you'd surely have an 'ounce' in there.

pauldavies85

423 posts

215 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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To a degree but each surgery give cost right let's alone extra staff and paying associates etc. You are right in saying some costs can be shared. My point really is that it's an extremely fair price that isn't set to buy himself a new sports car. As said I do a lot of this work on the nhs which believe it or not is at a loss, however other bits are not - swings and roundabouts.
Along the same lines gp's do very little minor surgery as they get paid far less than the costs of the instruments ( single use)

I know this generally goes against the general perception that gp's and dentists make a killing, something the daily mail wouldn't publish I'm sure.


Mattt

16,664 posts

247 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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Well my friends who are GPs and Dentists certainly aren't on the breadline wink

I agree that the £150 seems reasonable, but I don't buy the pleading poverty line!

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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My days, never realised treatment cost this much!!! I'm staying in for as long as I can!

pauldavies85

423 posts

215 months

Sunday 6th November 2011
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No certainly not, but it's also not just a licence to print money thats all!