Just fitted a Micron Titanium Oval can - rejet??
Just fitted a Micron Titanium Oval can - rejet??
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Mad Dave

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7,158 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Hi All,

Just fitted the above, and it looks and sounds awesome - BUT will i need to rejet my carbs or piss around with my fuelling at all? The bikes already got an aftermarket can on, but its road legal - the Micron isnt!

Advice?

Dave

cazzo

15,191 posts

282 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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It would benefit from rejet as this will allow it to work properly, as it stands it will almost certainly be running lean and not developing it's full potential power, in extreme cases running too lean can cause overheating and damage to pistons etc (although unlikely).

Do it what's the point of fitting a race can if it's not giving the desired power increase! plus if it's done on a dyno you will know how much of an increase.

Mad Dave

Original Poster:

7,158 posts

278 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Im not worried about performance - its quite fast enough. I just like the noise, and hope that it may alert Dozy Dorris in her beige Micra to my presence - and thus prevent her from turning me into road pizza.

bu5t4

185 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd June 2004
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Mad Dave said:
that it may alert Dozy Dorris in her beige Micra to my presence - and thus prevent her from turning me into road pizza.


nicely put mate

Steve_T

6,356 posts

287 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Provided you still get a bit or carbon build up in the end of the can, you shouldn't be running too lean.

Steve.

fergus

6,430 posts

290 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Also, unless you are running flat out everywhere, I really wouldn't worry about it. Most bikes are jetted slightly rich for longevity from the factory. A can alone (w/o the rest of the system) is unlikely to unleash much (if any power) and as such, they rarely need re-jetting. A re-jet will help your low down and mid range response, but most jet kits only change the main jet and needles. Google these if you want to find out what all the bits in your carb actually do. It's a good idea to do this before you let some numpty loose on your bike on the dyno - to relieve you of 200 quid for effectively doing nothing, or giving you 2hp in the midrange. Caveat emptor...

Mad Dave

Original Poster:

7,158 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Cheers mate. I don't run flat out everywhere, and im not fussed about performance, but i just dont want to screw my engine up - could get v expensive!!

fergus

6,430 posts

290 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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'Mad' Dave

As Steve_T said, as long as there is a bit of 'soot' in the end of your can, you will be OK. If the end can starts to become a lot 'cleaner', then this is a sign that the bike is running leaner. Also keep a mental check on where your temp guage is during normal riding. If the engine is running lean, it will tend to run slightly hotter.

Watch that needle!

iguana

7,196 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Mines got Dynojet stage 1, race can & K&N & it is a tad brisker right at the top end than a standard bike, as Ive run it vs yours when it was Bills & 2 others of mates, mind you its done double the miles of yours & most of them have been flat out, so it maybe its just a bit looser!

I do mean only a tad tho, really not much in it at all, only when really absolutely flat out has it been noticable.

Dyno plots done yrs ago so prob not that accurate now- show small gains from 2.5k rpm onwards, cleans out a dip at 5.8-6.5k then somat like a 5/6bhp gain all the way from 7.5-12k.

Was all done before I bought it, not sure i'd shell out the ££ on an older & cheap bike, for such tiny gains, race can essential obiously tho- coz standard can makes it sound like a pizza bike

I certainly woudnt spend a few hundred(*) £ for 5 bhp, as a tight chain, worn plugs & unbalanced carbs will loose a heck of a lot more than that.


1200s on the other hand are known to love a race can over the standard can, up to 10-15bhp gain even without a re-jet aparently.

Edited to add- fished out old invoices & it cost the old owner-

Dynojet kit & K&N -£125
Can & Link pipe- -£270
Dyno time -£30

= £425!!!!! for those small gains!!!





>> Edited by iguana on Wednesday 23 June 14:01

Mad Dave

Original Poster:

7,158 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Im not fussed about performance, i just dont want to blow my engine up!

Ill keep an eye on the soot level on the can.

Oh, and i dont have a temp gauge on the bike, so no idea what temp it should run at!

fergus

6,430 posts

290 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Are you sure there's no water temp guage? I presume then, that there is only a speedo and a tacho?

iguana

7,196 posts

275 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Fergus no being the owner of a 'proper' 911, you will know that oil & air are really the only ways to cool an engine

No temp or fuel guage on an old bandit6.

Mad Dave

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7,158 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd June 2004
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Just speedo (that was in bloody KM/H until i fitted a converter) and a tacho.

Oh, plus a few bulbs - l/r indicators, neutral, oil light.

Tis a basic bike