Schuis pass on Rubens
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Maybe not a button, but the teams already admit to adjusting the maximum revs that a car can pull at different times within the race.
It is usually due to managing the engine life (i.e. detuning for the majority of the running time), rather than finding something extra for the overtaking maneouver.
However, don't expect the difference to be massive. Anthony Davidson is beating the race drivers on Fridays, thanks partially to his engine running higher revs. The differences in lap times aren't staggering however, and the idea of him being able to simply pull out and pass easily is a mile off.
It is usually due to managing the engine life (i.e. detuning for the majority of the running time), rather than finding something extra for the overtaking maneouver.
However, don't expect the difference to be massive. Anthony Davidson is beating the race drivers on Fridays, thanks partially to his engine running higher revs. The differences in lap times aren't staggering however, and the idea of him being able to simply pull out and pass easily is a mile off.
The impression that I got was that it was almost like an over-boost function in that the rev limiter could be raised momentarily. The theory being that if geared properly for the race, the car will pretty much be reaching the rev limiter at its top speed down the straight. If you get a tow (as is more possibly on a circuit like Indy as they're set up for low downforce wings) then it's possible that you'd be bouncing off the rev limiter which probably wouldn't be the best thing to be happening when you're trying to set up an overtake. So the driver can temporarily raise the rev limiter to take advantage of the situation.
As for the move on Rubens, it did seem a bit risky on Shui's part. It's not as if he hasn't messed up going for a 0.000 difference before.
As for the move on Rubens, it did seem a bit risky on Shui's part. It's not as if he hasn't messed up going for a 0.000 difference before.
Surely if the difference was 0.o then Rubens was not the first man across the line and MS should have been penalised just like any other driver would have been if it had been MS they had done the same too!
And I have no doubts in the world that it was team orders that were involved in MS winning the race!
>> Edited by ricardo g on Monday 21st June 17:16
And I have no doubts in the world that it was team orders that were involved in MS winning the race!
>> Edited by ricardo g on Monday 21st June 17:16
ricardo g said:
And I have no doubts in the world that it was team orders that were involved in MS winning the race!
Life would indeed be dull without these conspiracy theories! Re the overtake, transponders don't lie - they are either 100% accurate or they fail to register. The difference between the two cars was 0.013 secs.
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Plus I get the impression that Schuey was more committed through the banked turn than Rubens who later said that his car was bottoming out due to low tyres pressures (after running behind the safety car).
Could argue that Schuey was very lucky with the timing of the overtake (0.013 = 1m!) and he doesn't have a good history of judging where the line is at Indy where Rubens is concerned
Could argue that Schuey was very lucky with the timing of the overtake (0.013 = 1m!) and he doesn't have a good history of judging where the line is at Indy where Rubens is concerned
I don't know if any of you have seen other rolling starts in CART, IRL or various sports racing serious (ALMS, etc) but the driver leading a rolling start is at a distinct disadvantage because MS can potentially start zooming toward RB without passing him yet before green. When green occurs MS has more speed and momentum and just jets by. It was actually pretty close. (MS high downforce RB less DF?)
Comments on bottoming out seem legit to me too. Did the cars seem to be bottoming going into turn one aswell? I thought I saw saw dust!
Comments on bottoming out seem legit to me too. Did the cars seem to be bottoming going into turn one aswell? I thought I saw saw dust!
CanAm said:
Right with you on that one. And he was BEHIND Rubens by 0.000 secs as they crossed the line. Sure he was!
He was..
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But then I've had a grudge against Ferrari ever since Mexico 1964. 
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