Cobra or Tuscan

[cdd]

My Business partner has just bought a Dax Teojera Kit car that has already been built with a 427 Ford 7.5 litre engine and a treme 4 speed.

He seems to think that it is quicker than my 2000 model 4 litre Tuscan.

Just wondering what you guys think. I would like an impartial opinion and not just a TVR fans opinion.

I can't see it bearing in mind it is 2 valves per cylinder push rod lump but thought some of you may have a better opinion.

I guess the only way to prove one way or the other is to get it on.

Has anyone got any specs so that i can wind him up in the office.

[RichardD]

I think with that size of engine, it is down to the state of tune. They may be primitive, but the amount of people that have tinkered with old US V8's will be huge compared to the RV8.

Something that can't be argued with is the noise of those things .

For a comparison, the Tuscan has another gear and better aerodynamics, so should be quicker above 80-100..

[tigerruss]

I had a 2002 Tuscan S which was radar timed 0-60 at 3.98sec and it hit 100 in 8.74sec. I'm now building a DAX Cobra with a 475BHP,480lbs 383ci Chevy V8 + 100 NOS which'll definately be faster to 60 and 100!!! (Wind noise and just being plain scared would probably mean my old Trevor would have a better top end (GPS clocked it at 184 once!)

[R666 TUS]

Have a look at my profile pic as I had a Cobra
before getting the TVR.While the build quality
and reliability of the kit car was far superior
to the TVR the Tuscan was a better option for me
as I found that I was not getting more than about
three months use a year out of it due to the weather.
(although with the time the TVR has been at the dealer
it could work out the same)The Cobra looks awful with
the hood up and they are nowhere near waterproof.
Wish I could have kept it though.As for speed it really is the breadvan aerodynamics that limit the
top end speed as the screen is virtually upright.
Great fun though and a tough choice.
Col

[powerlord]

I debated the same decision.

Was looking on some website down goodwood way.. can't remember the name of em that specialise in cobras.. some very nice examples.. nice v8 chevvy or ford engined ones for 15-20K.

In the end though, I figured the tuscan was more practical with the solid roof.. don't think I could live with a convertible and especially not a cobra type convertible where it doesn't really fit, etc.

I've always loved em though and if money would allow I'd have one of them and a wee blade engine locost on the garage too.

I'd suggest getting down to that garage whatever it is called and trying to get a test drive in some for a feel. I'd have though handling wise the trevor will p*ss all over it, but if you just want straight line grunt, a classic shape, and a sound to die for you could do worse than a cobra.

[TUS 373]

I think on and A to B journey, the Tuscan will get there faster. Mainly because a 7.5 litre lump will require more fuel stops!

I agree with all the comments on here - Cobras are fantastic cars and have alot of road presence. Personally, I think they are an even more specialist car and likely to have more foibles than a Tuscan. Saying that, I wouldn't kick one out of the garage. Infact, I think I'd gain alot of satisfaction from building one and putting it together properly.

I would not like to say which is the quicker car - there is only one way to find out the answer to the question - pistols at dawn on a quiet road methinks.

[R666 TUS]

"I think they are an even more specialist car and likely to have more foibles than a Tuscan."

I had mine for three and a half years with no
problems at all. The engine in mine was out of a 1964 Mustang and all it ever needed each year was plugs,points,oil and filter.All the gauges(smiths)
worked all the time, the back lights never fell out
into the boot
Sorry to be on a bit of a downer but just found out
that Blackpool have not even started to strip my engine yet as mine is number 6 of 14 units awaiting rebuild and that they have run out of parts

Col

>> Edited by R666 TUS on Tuesday 22 June 18:38

[kryton86]

Ironically, it's also 3.9 secs to 60, although the Tuscan's top speed is over 20mph faster.

www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=6952&vehicleTypeID=

Irrespective of figures, I think I'd prefer the Tuscan, less "macho" - in a good way....

[TUS 373]

R666 TUS said:

"I think they are an even more specialist car and likely to have more foibles than a Tuscan."

I didn't really mean that in a derogatory sense, just that like TVRs, I'm sure they have their quirks in day to day use - the kind of thing you wouldn't notice on an everyday Mondeo, but becomes more apparent in the everyday supercar. Good to see that the engine isn't one of them , and hope that Blackpool hurry up for you. I'm up at the factory in about 3 weeks time, so I'll take request now for earbashing them for you.

[MrsS]

Size isn't everything, its a heavy lump, and probably sruggles to produce a real 375 BHP. (American horses are smaller than UK ones - even if they come from Blackpool.....)

Suspect if its a std lump, and the Tuscan is fit, the TVR will have the edge to 60, 100 and beyond. Typical proper, read trick, 427 Shelby Cobras were 0-100-0, 13.1 secs.

[R666 TUS]

Bryan if you do see my car in Blackpool see if
I left my sunglasses in the car as I can't find
em anywhere

Col

[TUS 373]

R666 TUS said:

Bryan if you do see my car in Blackpool see if I left my sunglasses in the car as I can't find em anywhere Col

I'll have a look!