Ich bin ein Berliner
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Which actually means 'I am a donut' 
Anyway, I digress, whilst I live in Germany I don't actually know much about Berlin and am taking my daaahlink wife there for her 40th birthday this weekend along with our two daughters.
To those of you that have been there before, what are the 'must do's' please?
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
Anyway, I digress, whilst I live in Germany I don't actually know much about Berlin and am taking my daaahlink wife there for her 40th birthday this weekend along with our two daughters.
To those of you that have been there before, what are the 'must do's' please?
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
Adenauer said:
Which actually means 'I am a donut'
Anyway, I digress, whilst I live in Germany I don't actually know much about Berlin and am taking my daaahlink wife there for her 40th birthday this weekend along with our two daughters.
To those of you that have been there before, what are the 'must do's' please?
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
a) you've been watching too much Eddie IzzardAnyway, I digress, whilst I live in Germany I don't actually know much about Berlin and am taking my daaahlink wife there for her 40th birthday this weekend along with our two daughters.
To those of you that have been there before, what are the 'must do's' please?
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
b) It doesn't mean that at all, it means 'I am a Berliner'
http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/jfk_...
LotusMartin said:
Adenauer said:
Which actually means 'I am a donut'
Anyway, I digress, whilst I live in Germany I don't actually know much about Berlin and am taking my daaahlink wife there for her 40th birthday this weekend along with our two daughters.
To those of you that have been there before, what are the 'must do's' please?
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
a) you've been watching too much Eddie IzzardAnyway, I digress, whilst I live in Germany I don't actually know much about Berlin and am taking my daaahlink wife there for her 40th birthday this weekend along with our two daughters.
To those of you that have been there before, what are the 'must do's' please?
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
b) It doesn't mean that at all, it means 'I am a Berliner'
http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/historical/a/jfk_...
b) I've only lived here for 14 years and speak fluent German, so what would I know?
Oh and c) I don't do pissing contests and was only after some helpful info. But thanks for your opinion anyway, I shall file it.
)Adenauer said:
All I've done so far is booked some open top bus thing
That's a good plan.Nearby Potsdam worth a visit, Sanssouci palace.
http://www.potsdam.de/cms/beitrag/10001008/34080/
Mermaid said:
That's a good plan.
Nearby Potsdam worth a visit, Sanssouci palace.
http://www.potsdam.de/cms/beitrag/10001008/34080/
Thanks, Potsdam is a definite, our hotel is on Potsdamer Strasse (don't tell me, it's a million miles long)? Nearby Potsdam worth a visit, Sanssouci palace.
http://www.potsdam.de/cms/beitrag/10001008/34080/
Edited by Adenauer on Thursday 27th October 11:34
Adenauer said:
a) I don't watch Eddie Izzard and hence have no idea what you are on about
b) I've only lived here for 14 years and speak fluent German, so what would I know?
Oh and c) I don't do pissing contests and was only after some helpful info. But thanks for your opinion anyway, I shall file it.
Not a pissing contest at all - just stating that you are wrong!b) I've only lived here for 14 years and speak fluent German, so what would I know?
Oh and c) I don't do pissing contests and was only after some helpful info. But thanks for your opinion anyway, I shall file it.
Eddie goes on about this in one of his shows (Dressed to Kill?) but it is rubbish.
"Linguist Jürgen Eichhoff laid decades of misinformation to rest with a concise grammatical analysis of Kennedy's statement in the academic journal Monatshefte in 1993. "'Ich bin ein Berliner' is not only correct," Eichhoff wrote, "but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say."
An actual Berliner would say, in proper German, "Ich bin Berliner." But that wouldn't have been the correct phrase for Kennedy to use. The indefinite article "ein" is required, Eichhoff explains, to express a metaphorical identification between subject and predicate. Otherwise, the speaker could be taken to say he is literally a citizen of Berlin."
So maybe you're not as fluent as you thought you were
LotusMartin said:
Not a pissing contest at all - just stating that you are wrong!
Eddie goes on about this in one of his shows (Dressed to Kill?) but it is rubbish.
"Linguist Jürgen Eichhoff laid decades of misinformation to rest with a concise grammatical analysis of Kennedy's statement in the academic journal Monatshefte in 1993. "'Ich bin ein Berliner' is not only correct," Eichhoff wrote, "but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say."
An actual Berliner would say, in proper German, "Ich bin Berliner." But that wouldn't have been the correct phrase for Kennedy to use. The indefinite article "ein" is required, Eichhoff explains, to express a metaphorical identification between subject and predicate. Otherwise, the speaker could be taken to say he is literally a citizen of Berlin."
So maybe you're not as fluent as you thought you were
So, would it be fair to say that, if taken literallyEddie goes on about this in one of his shows (Dressed to Kill?) but it is rubbish.
"Linguist Jürgen Eichhoff laid decades of misinformation to rest with a concise grammatical analysis of Kennedy's statement in the academic journal Monatshefte in 1993. "'Ich bin ein Berliner' is not only correct," Eichhoff wrote, "but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say."
An actual Berliner would say, in proper German, "Ich bin Berliner." But that wouldn't have been the correct phrase for Kennedy to use. The indefinite article "ein" is required, Eichhoff explains, to express a metaphorical identification between subject and predicate. Otherwise, the speaker could be taken to say he is literally a citizen of Berlin."
So maybe you're not as fluent as you thought you were
"Ich bin Berliner" means "I am a citizen of Berlin"
and
"Ich bin ein Berliner" means "I am a Doughnut"
Put the popcorn away, phumy, I can't be arsed. Aber wenn ich als der gute Herrn Kennedy sagen wollte das ich einer meinung mit den leuten bin, die in Berlin wohnen, hätte ich gesagt das 'Ich bin eins mit den Berlinern', und nicht, 'I am a donut', aber der Herr Lotus kennt das anscheinend viel besser. <-----Martin, you can try and Babelfish that, but it won't help you much. Oh and whilst you're at it, why not try to dig up some other fascinating 'facts' on the internet to make yourself look even more clever? It's awfully impressive
Countdown said:
LotusMartin said:
Not a pissing contest at all - just stating that you are wrong!
Eddie goes on about this in one of his shows (Dressed to Kill?) but it is rubbish.
"Linguist Jürgen Eichhoff laid decades of misinformation to rest with a concise grammatical analysis of Kennedy's statement in the academic journal Monatshefte in 1993. "'Ich bin ein Berliner' is not only correct," Eichhoff wrote, "but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say."
An actual Berliner would say, in proper German, "Ich bin Berliner." But that wouldn't have been the correct phrase for Kennedy to use. The indefinite article "ein" is required, Eichhoff explains, to express a metaphorical identification between subject and predicate. Otherwise, the speaker could be taken to say he is literally a citizen of Berlin."
So maybe you're not as fluent as you thought you were
So, would it be fair to say that, if taken literallyEddie goes on about this in one of his shows (Dressed to Kill?) but it is rubbish.
"Linguist Jürgen Eichhoff laid decades of misinformation to rest with a concise grammatical analysis of Kennedy's statement in the academic journal Monatshefte in 1993. "'Ich bin ein Berliner' is not only correct," Eichhoff wrote, "but the one and only correct way of expressing in German what the President intended to say."
An actual Berliner would say, in proper German, "Ich bin Berliner." But that wouldn't have been the correct phrase for Kennedy to use. The indefinite article "ein" is required, Eichhoff explains, to express a metaphorical identification between subject and predicate. Otherwise, the speaker could be taken to say he is literally a citizen of Berlin."
So maybe you're not as fluent as you thought you were
"Ich bin Berliner" means "I am a citizen of Berlin"
and
"Ich bin ein Berliner" means "I am a Doughnut"
Adenauer said:
I only wanted to know what to do with my missus in Berlin this weekend, you fekkers.
Leave it
Well there's a daddy bird and a lady bee (not to be confused with a ladybird - given the thread running in the lounge on bestiality)....Leave it
Or failing that, what about die Soße Tuerme
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 27th October 13:06
Adenauer said:
whilst I live in Germany
Are you a hamburger by any chance? We went there earlier this year, fascinating place - but we couldn't get into the Bundestag which looked v interesting, as you have to pre-register: https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBoo...
Just so's you know.
I'm keeping out of the doughnut issue but there have been some previous threads on Berlin that threw up some good suggestions. Have at look at
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - pointers?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... Talk to me!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... to drink in Berlin?
I think Berlin is a great city, really interesting place.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... - pointers?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... Talk to me!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a... to drink in Berlin?
I think Berlin is a great city, really interesting place.
andywaterfall said:
Adenauer said:
whilst I live in Germany
Are you a hamburger by any chance? We went there earlier this year, fascinating place - but we couldn't get into the Bundestag which looked v interesting, as you have to pre-register: https://visite.bundestag.de/BAPWeb/pages/createBoo...
Just so's you know.
Thanks for the tip, Andy
Went to Berlin a few years ago for a weekend with wifey. Very nice indeed. Not too sure what sort of things you like but there is a quite interesting (if a little small) museum about the wall. Also went on a river tour which took a couple of hours and was quite a nice way of seeing the sites. You should probably take a look at the tower as well.
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