Free fruit and veg
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Stevenj214

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4,941 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Do you think people's attitude to food would change at all if the government subsidised 'staple' fruit and veg and make them free for all?

Thom987

3,185 posts

194 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Stevenj214 said:
Do you think people's attitude to food would change at all if the government subsidised 'staple' fruit and veg and make them free for all?
Not unless it comes in a Kebab/ready meat etc etc.

Jasandjules

72,512 posts

257 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Stevenj214 said:
Do you think people's attitude to food would change at all if the government subsidised 'staple' fruit and veg and make them free for all?
The attitude? No not really. I do think there are those who would still not want to eat it though....

0a

24,132 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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If you avoid the supermarkets reasonable quality fruit and veg (reasonable because people here will compare it to their farm shop purchased organic stuff) can be purchased cheaply from green grocers and markets. I paid a quid for 2kg of tomatoes the other day, great for fresh soup. Yes I also go to waitrose!

However this is not as easy or convenient as ready meals, so it wouldn't make any difference in my opinion.

g3org3y

22,417 posts

219 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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You would be genuinely shocked regarding some of the ignorance inherent in the more deprived sections of society.

While working in a particularly poor part of Essex, I had a mother come in (early 20s) with her 6 month old child and asked whether it was possible to puree McDonald's or chicken nuggets to give to the baby.

After suggesting that might not be the best idea, I mentioned the idea of vegetables. She flatly stated she had never heard of sweetcorn and genuinely believed that carrots could only be obtained out of tins.

The unfortunate state of affairs continues with the children and their children and their children. It is very difficult to break the loop. frown

Crafty_

14,014 posts

228 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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We get free fruit at work, it all disappears pretty quickly every day.

I think rather than free produce they need to improve education, the post above about puree McDonalds etc is quite scary.

zac510

5,546 posts

234 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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I already buy fruit/veg, use a bit then forget about it and end up wasting it. I imagine a lot more would get wasted if you could just pick it up off the shelf and take it.

0a

24,132 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Crafty_ said:
We get free fruit at work, it all disappears pretty quickly every day.

I think rather than free produce they need to improve education, the post above about puree McDonalds etc is quite scary.
My old work was similar, and it also went quickly. I'd say this is down to the intelligence of our colleagues.

Recently I have been cooking evening meals, and have been struck how cheap it is to cook from scratch compared to ready meals. The biggest surprise was how quick it can be. If you want to you can eat healthily and conveniently for little money.

The above post regarding chicken nuggets is the other world.

MX7

7,902 posts

202 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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Veg is stupidly cheap at the moment. I don't think it's the cost that stops people eating vegetables.

0a

24,132 posts

222 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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g3org3y said:
You would be genuinely shocked regarding some of the ignorance inherent in the more deprived sections of society.

While working in a particularly poor part of Essex, I had a mother come in (early 20s) with her 6 month old child and asked whether it was possible to puree McDonald's or chicken nuggets to give to the baby.

After suggesting that might not be the best idea, I mentioned the idea of vegetables. She flatly stated she had never heard of sweetcorn and genuinely believed that carrots could only be obtained out of tins.

The unfortunate state of affairs continues with the children and their children and their children. It is very difficult to break the loop. frown
Having re-read this fully, it's quite shocking to me as you say. What do you think would change this attitude to the nutrition of her kids? Education in schools regarding basic eating/health?

66comanche

2,369 posts

187 months

Wednesday 19th October 2011
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MX7 said:
Veg is stupidly cheap at the moment. I don't think it's the cost that stops people eating vegetables.
How is veg 'stupidly cheap at the moment'? It has doubled, if not tripled in price in recent years.

RodMod

1,172 posts

236 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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Some attitudes are st when it comes to food, I live on my own and find the time to cook myself a square fresh meal 6 nights of the week, its not expensive , ok sometimes with vegetables and salad items I have to have the same ingrediants 2 or 3 times in one week but this usually pushes me to be more creative with the stuff I have any left overs all on the hob in stock for soup now its getting colder outside.

Education is the key although with the things mentioned above I dont think many will listen.

Rod.

MX7

7,902 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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66comanche said:
MX7 said:
Veg is stupidly cheap at the moment. I don't think it's the cost that stops people eating vegetables.
How is veg 'stupidly cheap at the moment'? It has doubled, if not tripled in price in recent years.
4 x sweetcorn for £1. A load of mushrooms for £1. 50p for a cabbage.

If you go to M&S it's probably more, but the local greengrocer, and stuff on offer in Sainsburys is stupidly cheap.

I don't know how you educate people about food. I'm amazed that some people seem to know so little about it given how important it is, and how regularly all sorts of cooking and food programmes are on TV. I think it's just lazyness.

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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MX7 said:
Veg is stupidly cheap at the moment. I don't think it's the cost that stops people eating vegetables.
You have got to be kidding, it costs a fortune.

Unless you want to go trawling round one shop for this and one shop for that

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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MX7 said:
4 x sweetcorn for £1. A load of mushrooms for £1. 50p for a cabbage.

If you go to M&S it's probably more, but the local greengrocer, and stuff on offer in Sainsburys is stupidly cheap.

I don't know how you educate people about food. I'm amazed that some people seem to know so little about it given how important it is, and how regularly all sorts of cooking and food programmes are on TV. I think it's just lazyness.
Where can you get 4 sweetcorn for one pound?
Or a load (?) of mushrooms for a quid?

MX7

7,902 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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dazco said:
Where can you get 4 sweetcorn for one pound?
Or a load (?) of mushrooms for a quid?
the local greengrocer

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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MX7 said:
the local greengrocer
Please elaborate

MX7

7,902 posts

202 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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dazco said:
MX7 said:
the local greengrocer
Please elaborate
lo·cal   /ˈloʊkəl/ Show Spelled[loh-kuhl] Show IPAadjective 1.pertaining to or characterized by place or position in space; spatial.
2.pertaining to, characteristic of, or restricted to a particular place or particular places: a local custom. 3.pertaining to a city, town, or small district rather than an entire state or country: local transportation. 4.stopping at most or all stations: a local train. 5.pertaining to or affecting a particular part or particular parts, as of a physical system or organism: a local disease.


green·gro·cer   /ˈgrinˌgroʊsər/ Show Spelled[green-groh-ser] Show IPAnoun Chiefly British. a retailer of fresh vegetables and fruit.

dazco

4,281 posts

217 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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MX7 said:
lo·cal   /ˈloʊkəl/ Show Spelled[loh-kuhl] Show IPAadjective 1.pertaining to or characterized by place or position in space; spatial.
2.pertaining to, characteristic of, or restricted to a particular place or particular places: a local custom. 3.pertaining to a city, town, or small district rather than an entire state or country: local transportation. 4.stopping at most or all stations: a local train. 5.pertaining to or affecting a particular part or particular parts, as of a physical system or organism: a local disease.


green·gro·cer   /ˈgrinˌgroʊsər/ Show Spelled[green-groh-ser] Show IPAnoun Chiefly British. a retailer of fresh vegetables and fruit.
Oh right then.

My local, erm, bed shop is selling beds for, erm, tuppence ha'penny.

0a

24,132 posts

222 months

Thursday 20th October 2011
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dazco said:
MX7 said:
the local greengrocer
Please elaborate
I'm sorry, I've lived in the North, South Kensington, Clapham, Wapping, Nottingham. In every case I have found someone describing that term.

And have more than matched those prices.