Canon 1D X merging the 1D and 1Ds lines!
Canon 1D X merging the 1D and 1Ds lines!
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RobDickinson

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31,343 posts

283 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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18mp full frame native 51000 ISO camera with a new 61 point AF system and a whole lot of bells and whistles.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/1110/11101810canoneos...

Dual CF cards
In camera HDR
Masses of SIMPLE AF options
Dual digic5+
New 100,000px metering sensor with its own digic 4!
MA adjust including options for both ends of a zoom
Gigabit ethernet

Sounds like ground breaking clean high IQ files too.

A real monster , tour de force. Looks like its priced closer to the 1Ds than the 1D though (for now)

RobDickinson

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ian in lancs

3,853 posts

227 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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Wow

Come on Nikon wheres the D3 and D700 replacements?

RobDickinson

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Tuesday 18th October 2011
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ian in lancs said:
Come on Nikon wheres the D3 and D700 replacements?
Due to Thailand's floods nikons anouncements have been delayed afik.

miniman

30,037 posts

291 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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Very cool, but 61 point AF? Really? Is it only me that just uses the centre zone?

RobDickinson

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Tuesday 18th October 2011
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miniman said:
Very cool, but 61 point AF? Really? Is it only me that just uses the centre zone?
No, but theres a ton of use for other points.

AF tracking across the frame, focusing without recomposing (with fast lenses), proper framing of sports shots etc with the subject not in the centre.

Its easy to move and select other focus points, center point only is a bit luddite! biggrin

crmcatee

5,805 posts

256 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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I like that. As you say - merging the 1d and 1ds but with added bells and whistles.

theboyfold

11,469 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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If it can shoot 12fps at 18mp, why is it still restricted to just 1080p I wonder? I'm trying to work it out, but I'm guessing they haven't got the bandwidth for 4k, but 2k should be within reach. I'm wondering if there is a market for 2k though...

RobDickinson

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Tuesday 18th October 2011
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theboyfold said:
If it can shoot 12fps at 18mp, why is it still restricted to just 1080p I wonder? I'm trying to work it out, but I'm guessing they haven't got the bandwidth for 4k, but 2k should be within reach. I'm wondering if there is a market for 2k though...
It can shoot a new very high bitrate compression mode, no 2k though which is wierd.

theboyfold

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Tuesday 18th October 2011
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RobDickinson said:
It can shoot a new very high bitrate compression mode, no 2k though which is wierd.
I wonder if Canon see 2k as old hat now and only 4k is worth striving for?

ian in lancs

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227 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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RobDickinson said:
ian in lancs said:
Come on Nikon wheres the D3 and D700 replacements?
Due to Thailand's floods nikons anouncements have been delayed afik.
I'd heard that too.

toasty

8,405 posts

249 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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Damn their marketing hype!

...adds another thing to the want list.

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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Wow, that does look lovely.

It's a good job it'll be so cheap and affordable hehe

RobDickinson

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Tuesday 18th October 2011
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I just know if I sell off a kidney they will bring out a 1D Xs!

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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As pointed out on one or two sites it seems a bit odd for the flagship 1D to have a lesser pixel count than a 5D2 and the 1DsIII.

Unless there is something else just around the corner ... or they feel they can't compete successfully and profitably with the MF backs and the latest Sony offerings and have identified a different area of market segmentation for a profitable revenue stream.

Unless, of course, their 18Mp sensor with Digic 5 is very special.

Edited by LongQ on Tuesday 18th October 19:00

14-7

6,233 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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$6800 so about £4318.

Very impressive camera in my opinion. Two very good ideas are the dual CF slots and the gigabit LAN. Very handy for transferring lots of information over without having to wait 15-20 minutes for a card reader to do it. Although not critical for me I can see why a professional photographer would love it as it speeds up the work flow process.


markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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£5299 is the UK price.

Walters Photo Video (who were excellent when I bought my 1Ds Mk2 from them recently) have it on pre-order for March

http://www.waltersphotovideo.co.uk/products/canon-...

14-7

6,233 posts

220 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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markmullen said:
£5299 is the UK price.

Walters Photo Video (who were excellent when I bought my 1Ds Mk2 from them recently) have it on pre-order for March

http://www.waltersphotovideo.co.uk/products/canon-...
Ouch!

That's quite a hefty increase from the US equivelent price.

monkey gland

574 posts

184 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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14-7 said:
Ouch!

That's quite a hefty increase from the US equivelent price.
Ludicrous isn't it. You could fly over there, buyt it and have a bit of a holiday and still come out ahead.

LongQ

13,864 posts

262 months

Tuesday 18th October 2011
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14-7 said:
$6800 so about £4318.

Very impressive camera in my opinion. Two very good ideas are the dual CF slots and the gigabit LAN. Very handy for transferring lots of information over without having to wait 15-20 minutes for a card reader to do it. Although not critical for me I can see why a professional photographer would love it as it speeds up the work flow process.
Well yes, ish. And I can see why they would go for 2 CF rather than 1 CF and 1 SD.

However unless you are having to work in near real time for deadlines of one sort or another or you are working tethered to a network with someone else making the decisions about which files to use as they are shot, the effective download speed of a cardfull of images will be dictated by the card read speed. Currently CF is faster than SD and a new generation of CF technology promises even higher capacities and greater speeds. Without this the latest camera specs would have little purpose.

In batch transfer mode I would imagine there is the trade off between letting a suitable card reader handle the transfer whilst you carry on using the camera if you need to vs. tying up the camera (or at least part of its processing and battery capacity, transferring files - wire-tethered or WiFi with the WFT adaptor. CF card read speeds will be the primary driver either way - unless the network interface software is poor!

So lets see, if shooting the high quality uncompressed video you might want about 4 of the latest, fastest top spec CF cards - probably around £1000 a pop at the moment. So £4k for the camera and £4k for the cards? Better get some spare batteries too. And it seems these are a new version of the existing ones which poses some questions about compatibility, maybe.

Still, one way or another it looks quite promising. I'll be looking forward to the reviews.