Cyclists to Require Road Insurance
Cyclists to Require Road Insurance
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spareparts

Original Poster:

6,796 posts

256 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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They are a menace on the roads.

They do NOT stay left, wobble and swerve dangerously at 10mph in the middle of traffic, meander in between stationary traffic and nose out into adjacent lanes not looking out for motorbikes or moving vehicles coming down the lane...

If a motorbike is classed as "Bicycle" on my Road Tax disc, proper bicycles should be required to have the same tax. And require Road Insurance.

Fact: Cyclists can cause damage to motorbikes, cars and other people. They should be required by law to have insurance.

If you are going to use the public highway, you should pay the public charge.

furious

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Very reasoned argument there - NOT

So, every time you walk on the road do you carry insurance?

C8PPO

20,850 posts

232 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Which page of the Daily Wail was this printed on?

spareparts

Original Poster:

6,796 posts

256 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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R500POP said:
Very reasoned argument there - NOT

So, every time you walk on the road do you carry insurance?
Pedestrians are meant to walk on the pavement.
When they cross the road at marked crossings, there is little chance of them damaging another vehicle (of any size).
Vehicle insurance is to insure the vehicles.

As a pedestrian-only, you can get personal injury insuance that will cover you in the event of a personal injury.

rcsyoung

2,028 posts

185 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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One cyclist was holding up a 50 car stream of traffic going through Windsor Great Park this morning. Most evenings it's the same. I hate them I have to say but that's only beacuse they're incoveniencing me. And there are cyclist nutters just like there are bike or car nutters that cause accidents.

But insurance? What about your 12 year old kid riding to school? Do they need insurance too?

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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rcsyoung said:
But insurance? What about your 12 year old kid riding to school? Do they need insurance too?
Exactly, the OP is talking horseste and I suspect, lives under a bridge, but the billy goats gruff aren't around today so he needs to annoy somebody else.

EOP - ever crossed a car park at the supermarket with your trolly?

Edited by R500POP on Monday 19th September 10:33

Efbe

9,251 posts

195 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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why not just give everyone personal insurance from birth. that way we could spend each and every day of our lives sueing everyone.

wow, amazing idea. thanks boyo

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

229 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Yes - can we also please ban them from having organised 'road races' because racing on the public highway is illegal is it not?, and also causes disruption to my journey to see my Mum every fking Sunday morning...that bds.

Factory Dorso

1,955 posts

184 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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spareparts said:
Pedestrians are meant to walk on the pavement.
When they cross the road at marked crossings, there is little chance of them damaging another vehicle (of any size).
Vehicle insurance is to insure the vehicles.

As a pedestrian-only, you can get personal injury insuance that will cover you in the event of a personal injury.
Are you one of those people that queue up at Zebra crossings and stand there staring into the distance until the little green man appears telling you its safe to cross? wink

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Factory Dorso said:
Are you one of those people that queue up at Zebra crossings and stand there staring into the distance until the little green man appears telling you its safe to cross? wink
Probably wets the bed too.

adamtull

10 posts

187 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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They shouldn't need insurance however, they should pay tax of some sort. I don't mind them too much but on a number of occasions I've been heading out green laning and you always meet the rear end of a cyclist going through lanes. This upsets me because they never seem to grasp the fact I pay money to use that road and they don't yet they still feel they are as important and allowed to use the whole road. :/ I mean when there is no one around by all means, they can do what they like with it but when someone who pays to be there is held up by their incompetence I think it is wrong. I've had countless arguments with them, not because I'm mad, more just to wind them up but I do think they should pay something if they want to use the road for cycling, everyone else does?

spareparts

Original Poster:

6,796 posts

256 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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When a cyclist causes damage to other vehicles on the public highway,
there needs to be a mechanism to recover costs of the vehicles damaged at the liability of the cyclist.

spareparts

Original Poster:

6,796 posts

256 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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adamtull said:
They shouldn't need insurance however, they should pay tax of some sort. I don't mind them too much but on a number of occasions I've been heading out green laning and you always meet the rear end of a cyclist going through lanes. This upsets me because they never seem to grasp the fact I pay money to use that road and they don't yet they still feel they are as important and allowed to use the whole road. :/ I mean when there is no one around by all means, they can do what they like with it but when someone who pays to be there is held up by their incompetence I think it is wrong. I've had countless arguments with them, not because I'm mad, more just to wind them up but I do think they should pay something if they want to use the road for cycling, everyone else does?
Absolutely.

Reardy Mister

13,758 posts

251 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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spareparts said:
They are a menace on the roads.

They do NOT stay left, wobble and swerve dangerously at 10mph in the middle of traffic, meander in between stationary traffic and nose out into adjacent lanes not looking out for motorbikes or moving vehicles coming down the lane...

If a motorbike is classed as "Bicycle" on my Road Tax disc, proper bicycles should be required to have the same tax. And require Road Insurance.

Fact: Cyclists can cause damage to motorbikes, cars and other people. They should be required by law to have insurance.

If you are going to use the public highway, you should pay the public charge.

furious
Yes, you're right. All of them. Complete idiots ot the last and none of them can ride and someone should be thinking of the children they could harm.

I'll have the Mail when youre done...

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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spareparts said:
When a cyclist causes damage to other vehicles on the public highway,
there needs to be a mechanism to recover costs of the vehicles damaged at the liability of the cyclist.
I suspect you'll find there are more car/cycle interfaces that are the car drivers fault than the cyclists. As a regular road cyclistr you develop a sixth sense about car rivers simply not giving you enough room or seeing you, despite the abundance of his-viz clothing.

EDIT:- Just checked it out, max of 25% of accidents are car drivers fault.

Edited by R500POP on Monday 19th September 10:44

Factory Dorso

1,955 posts

184 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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spareparts said:
adamtull said:
They shouldn't need insurance however, they should pay tax of some sort. I don't mind them too much but on a number of occasions I've been heading out green laning and you always meet the rear end of a cyclist going through lanes. This upsets me because they never seem to grasp the fact I pay money to use that road and they don't yet they still feel they are as important and allowed to use the whole road. :/ I mean when there is no one around by all means, they can do what they like with it but when someone who pays to be there is held up by their incompetence I think it is wrong. I've had countless arguments with them, not because I'm mad, more just to wind them up but I do think they should pay something if they want to use the road for cycling, everyone else does?
Absolutely.
rolleyes

http://ipayroadtax.com/category/roads-not-built-fo...

Mr Gear

9,416 posts

219 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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I'll happily tax all three of my bicycles at the going rate.

0gCo2/km...multiplied by three... that makes it £0.

MODS can you please move this thread to Pedal Powered forum please, because I can't be bothered to deal with the rest of the horsest on offer in the original post.

R500POP

9,073 posts

239 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Mr Gear said:
I'll happily tax all three of my bicycles at the going rate.

0gCo2/km...multiplied by three... that makes it £0.
Good point you have there.

Wonder what the OP thinks of the cars on the road that pay zero road tax?

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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spareparts said:
They are a menace on the roads.

They do NOT stay left, wobble and swerve dangerously at 10mph in the middle of traffic, meander in between stationary traffic and nose out into adjacent lanes not looking out for motorbikes or moving vehicles coming down the lane...

If a motorbike is classed as "Bicycle" on my Road Tax disc, proper bicycles should be required to have the same tax. And require Road Insurance.

Fact: Cyclists can cause damage to motorbikes, cars and other people. They should be required by law to have insurance.

If you are going to use the public highway, you should pay the public charge.

furious
And do you know the best of it... Us cyclists can't be banned hehe

Red lights? Sorry mate, don't apply. Footpaths, all mine for the taking. Oh, and 10 MPH? I don't think so, my lycra lets me do an easy 20... God it's snug and sexy biggrin

Isn't it time they introduced front numberplates for motorbikes?