Would this idea work with TVR battery?
Would this idea work with TVR battery?
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DWP

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1,232 posts

244 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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My Tuscan sits in a garage that has no electricity feed. Nor is it possible to provide it. As the winter approaches and the car is used less than during the summer the battery will go flat. Can I using a second battery, via the jump leads, keep the battery alive for longer? With my old Griff, it was easy to disconnect the battery, with a Tuscan not so straightforward. It would be straightforward to re-charge the slave battery in my flat. Is this a dumb idea?

Barkychoc

7,848 posts

233 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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If you could devise a way of swapping battery connections over you could use a caravan type (leisure) battery to run your alarm etc while its stood and have the 'normal' battery disconnected.

Normal car batteries do not last long if flattened a number of times - a leisure battery is built to withstand this and can stand deep discharges more than a car battery (though still best avoided). The downside is that a caravan battery with a decent capacity is bloody heavy - so you would need to have it on a trolley or something - if thats possible in your circumstances then I think could be a goer. You can also buy an enclosure for leisure batteries to stop any acid leaking - it might be worth investing in one of those?

I don't think it would be a good idea to start the car from a leisure battery - I don't they are designed to deliver massive starting currents like a car battery.

The problem probably comes when you get pigged off with carting the battery backwards and forwards every couple of weeks or so.

jvr

789 posts

276 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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I've started to use a 'Ring' power pack which has a built in inverter,just enough to run an accumate at charging mode 1.2 amps,if actually charging iot will last about a day and a half but on top up mode it should last about a week or so.It takes 36hrs to charge on mains and has a jump start and 12v output
HTH
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Derek Smith

49,726 posts

277 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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My brother, who is away for two weeks from yesterday, had a power pack (that's all I know as description) which he used to trickle charge his VW Caravanette. He told me that the power pack could kill someone. I assumed this was by current rather than being hit by the thing, although it was heavy.

Sorry I've got no more details.

jvr

789 posts

276 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Shouldn't do,yes its heavy but its got an internal fan to keep things cool,turns itself off when the pack has rundown(with an alarm)and has a polarity protection system.Unless it was faulty however..

I've looked at solar power as well but the only alternative for me short of trailing a cable across the shared for 4 houses carpark is the power pack.I hasten to add that my car is in a garage so the unit sits on the floor.
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Getsis

1,550 posts

245 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Why not just remove the battery or disconnect the terminals?

Hoover.

5,993 posts

271 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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In line battery isolator...

or solar power, Maplins have some good deals on the large solar panels at present, fix to roof of garage and charge via the cigarette lighter point smile

broadside

856 posts

311 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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My TVR was always on a accumate until I had to move last Janauary to a place with a garage that had no power. I bought a solar panel, made a wood and aluminium frame / stand for it so it wouldn't get blown away and ran the cables from the panel on the roof through an air vent brick and connected the charger to the battery. As long as the car was started every two weeks there was no problems. Only went flat on me once after I didn't use the TVR for a month due to family stuff and crap weather. Hope this helps.

I got the panel from Amazon,small briefcase design. Still got it and don't need it now I've moved again ....I'll throw in the frame for free!!!

Alexdaredevilz

5,697 posts

208 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Hoover. said:
In line battery isolator...

or solar power, Maplins have some good deals on the large solar panels at present, fix to roof of garage and charge via the cigarette lighter point smile
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DWP

Original Poster:

1,232 posts

244 months

Monday 12th September 2011
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Getsis said:
Why not just remove the battery or disconnect the terminals?
Removal of battery on TVR Tuscan. 1. Jack up near side of car. 2. Remove front wheel. 3. Remove plate at rear of wheel arch. 4. Remove battery (best tool for this is Gorilla Like Arms) 4. After recharging battery and rebuilding hands, replacing fingers and then mending forearms, replace battery. 5. Lie down for a day or too.

That's the problem and it would appear the only way to stop battery drain is accumulate charger or run car. If you are on holiday can't run car. No way to get electricity to garage, so budget for new battery each year, as when it runs absolutely flat for a month a cell or two will commit suicide.

onny

355 posts

291 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Tuscan lives in an underground carpark without sun or power. Had an electronic battery cut off device 'Battery Brain' which worked well for a few years until it died.

But now have a marine grade battery cutoff switch fitter under the car next to the anderson connection point and never had a flat battery again and never have to get access to the battery to disconnect it. $10 and 1/2 hour to fit. When the cutoff is switch on, the alarm is automatically set so even if someone finds the cutoff and switch it on the doors still locked so they can't get in the car. Perfect solution for me.

http://www.amazon.com/BATTERY-CUTOFF-SWITCH-BOAT-R...


Getsis

1,550 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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DWP said:
Getsis said:
Why not just remove the battery or disconnect the terminals?
Removal of battery on TVR Tuscan. 1. Jack up near side of car. 2. Remove front wheel. 3. Remove plate at rear of wheel arch. 4. Remove battery (best tool for this is Gorilla Like Arms) 4. After recharging battery and rebuilding hands, replacing fingers and then mending forearms, replace battery. 5. Lie down for a day or too.

That's the problem and it would appear the only way to stop battery drain is accumulate charger or run car. If you are on holiday can't run car. No way to get electricity to garage, so budget for new battery each year, as when it runs absolutely flat for a month a cell or two will commit suicide.
On the Tamora I turn the wheel to give access to the panel, remove panel (1 screw) undo positive lead, job done.

DWP

Original Poster:

1,232 posts

244 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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Getsis said:
DWP said:
Getsis said:
Why not just remove the battery or disconnect the terminals?
Removal of battery on TVR Tuscan. 1. Jack up near side of car. 2. Remove front wheel. 3. Remove plate at rear of wheel arch. 4. Remove battery (best tool for this is Gorilla Like Arms) 4. After recharging battery and rebuilding hands, replacing fingers and then mending forearms, replace battery. 5. Lie down for a day or too.

That's the problem and it would appear the only way to stop battery drain is accumulate charger or run car. If you are on holiday can't run car. No way to get electricity to garage, so budget for new battery each year, as when it runs absolutely flat for a month a cell or two will commit suicide.
On the Tamora I turn the wheel to give access to the panel, remove panel (1 screw) undo positive lead, job done.
Can we swap cars? Honestly the designer of the position on the Tuscan was on something very heavy the day they did this piece of work. If they did it sober they need help.

Getsis

1,550 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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DWP said:
Can we swap cars?
No chance smile

so called

9,160 posts

238 months

Tuesday 13th September 2011
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I had a Battery Brain fitted to my First Tuscan.
It monitors the battery voltage and if it sees a drop below a certain level, automatically isolates the battery.
You can also isolate the battery straight away with the remote control that the BB comes with.
I used to leave my Tuscan in airport car parks for 2 to 3 weeks and always a flat battery on my return.
Problem was sorted with the BB.
Good thing as well was that the BB was located inside the car.
To reset was simple. Remote reset on BB would reconnect battery o car. This deactivated alarm & immobilizer and door locks etc. Unlock car then as normal.
Tony