Steps to creating a Challenge Car?
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You can't 'create' a Tuscan Challenge car. They were only built as Challenge race cars - you can only buy them.
2 options - buy an ex-racer that has been converted for road use (either with an AJP road car engine, Chevvy or Rover V8 fitted), or buy a current race car, without an engine or ECU, as these belong to TVR and are leased to drivers for the race series.
2 options - buy an ex-racer that has been converted for road use (either with an AJP road car engine, Chevvy or Rover V8 fitted), or buy a current race car, without an engine or ECU, as these belong to TVR and are leased to drivers for the race series.
Speak to Warren at Top Cats Racing. He (or rather his mechanic
) has now converted two to two seater trackday spec with Cerbra engines and by all accounts they are both fine examples.
>> Edited by daydreamer on Thursday 10th June 12:23
) has now converted two to two seater trackday spec with Cerbra engines and by all accounts they are both fine examples. >> Edited by daydreamer on Thursday 10th June 12:23
John - be very careful. We only re-chassis our race cars if the original is bent. Even with a cheap chassis, you will struggle to build a car economically. The cheapest route is still to buy a complete car. Bear in mind that the very best car in the championship would not fetch more than £20k. I paid less than half that, albeit I got something of a bargain.
To put it in context, a tub will cost you £4k. A bonnet £1k. Wheels £1.2k. Dampers £2k. Dash electronics £1.5k. Brakes £2k. Wishbones, uprights etc £2k. Rose joints £2k. You still have no wiring loom, seat, roll cage, engine, gearbox, diff, driveshafts, lights, tonneau covers, doors, fixings, windscreen, steering rack, steering column, steering wheel, swithes, dials, air boxes, ECU, harnesses, battery, fire extinguisher, rear diffuser.
There is no way you can build a car for less than £20k, even with a free chassis. Not unless you have a shed load of Tuscan spares free too....
To put it in context, a tub will cost you £4k. A bonnet £1k. Wheels £1.2k. Dampers £2k. Dash electronics £1.5k. Brakes £2k. Wishbones, uprights etc £2k. Rose joints £2k. You still have no wiring loom, seat, roll cage, engine, gearbox, diff, driveshafts, lights, tonneau covers, doors, fixings, windscreen, steering rack, steering column, steering wheel, swithes, dials, air boxes, ECU, harnesses, battery, fire extinguisher, rear diffuser.
There is no way you can build a car for less than £20k, even with a free chassis. Not unless you have a shed load of Tuscan spares free too....
A decent second hand AJP seems to be around £6k at the moment.
The gearbox is standard T5 road car, but 5th gear is modified. You can use a Cerbera diff.
You'll have to use the race car uprights and wishbones. You could use road car dampers and brakes, but you'd have a car with performance that oustripped its handling and stopping capabilities and thus could be dangerous.
Its all the little stuff that you don't think about that will be supplied with a complete car, but that you'd have to buy. For example, there are over £100 worth of camlock fixings on my car, just holding the tonneau covers on.
Oh - I forgot about the radiator, rad frame, 2 oil coolers, carbon tray and boxes and oil pipes. These and a steering rack are over £1,200.
I'm not trying to put you off getting a Tuscan, I'm just saying you are contemplating an extremely expensive way of doing it.
The gearbox is standard T5 road car, but 5th gear is modified. You can use a Cerbera diff.
You'll have to use the race car uprights and wishbones. You could use road car dampers and brakes, but you'd have a car with performance that oustripped its handling and stopping capabilities and thus could be dangerous.
Its all the little stuff that you don't think about that will be supplied with a complete car, but that you'd have to buy. For example, there are over £100 worth of camlock fixings on my car, just holding the tonneau covers on.
Oh - I forgot about the radiator, rad frame, 2 oil coolers, carbon tray and boxes and oil pipes. These and a steering rack are over £1,200.
I'm not trying to put you off getting a Tuscan, I'm just saying you are contemplating an extremely expensive way of doing it.
I bought Gareth Evans' No9 car from last year as a rolling body/chassis. A brand new Chevy 350 ZZ4 engine with a brand new T56 gearbox is going in at the moment (I imported them from the USA myself). Still lots to do and lots more to spend on it but should be on the road for next Spring. I've budgeted for £22500 in total and shouldn't be far out.
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