Tuscan 4.0l or 4.0l Red Rose
Discussion
Hi,
Is thereanyone out there who has owned or driven both.
I know what you get in the Red Rose upgrade kit but is the drive ,handling,acceleration and braking noticabley different.
Has anyone bought a Plain (if may use the word) 4.0l Tuscan and wish they'd bought one with a red rose upgrade
As usual all comments gratefully recieved
Clive
Is thereanyone out there who has owned or driven both.
I know what you get in the Red Rose upgrade kit but is the drive ,handling,acceleration and braking noticabley different.
Has anyone bought a Plain (if may use the word) 4.0l Tuscan and wish they'd bought one with a red rose upgrade
As usual all comments gratefully recieved
Clive
I drove both before choosing the Red Rose. There is some fairly re-work in the engine upgrade (30 bhp extra) and it makes the engine resistant to the engine failure that blighted the standard early Tuscans.
You get the 18" wheels as part of the package (it was 4200 quid for the Red Rose Pack) and handling mods.
You will find that those mods mean the Red Rose is hooked up much better and you feel the front and back are part of the same car. But, the ride is harder than a standard and B-roads become a test of attrition. That's part of the fun.
Hope that helps..
You get the 18" wheels as part of the package (it was 4200 quid for the Red Rose Pack) and handling mods.
You will find that those mods mean the Red Rose is hooked up much better and you feel the front and back are part of the same car. But, the ride is harder than a standard and B-roads become a test of attrition. That's part of the fun.
Hope that helps..
When I bought mine I drove a standard car and a RR back to back.
What a difference. The RR was like a Go-Kart on steroids and the standard car felt almost blancmange-like in comparison.
The suspension, brakes and 18" spiders are worth the upgrade alone (not too sure about the hydratrack) and the extra ponies are the icing on the cake
Second hand the prices are pretty close now for the 2 versions so go for the RR. You will not be dissapointed (just make sure the engine's been rebuilt in the last 18 months).
What a difference. The RR was like a Go-Kart on steroids and the standard car felt almost blancmange-like in comparison.
The suspension, brakes and 18" spiders are worth the upgrade alone (not too sure about the hydratrack) and the extra ponies are the icing on the cake
Second hand the prices are pretty close now for the 2 versions so go for the RR. You will not be dissapointed (just make sure the engine's been rebuilt in the last 18 months).
our tuscan S has the chassis or engine number and 'S' daubed on the case beside the embossed TVR bit.
edited: by all accounts, it's worth getting a RR. if you ever venture on track, think the RR would be a big step up from 'standard' car.
>> Edited by tuscan_thunder on Friday 11th June 11:49
edited: by all accounts, it's worth getting a RR. if you ever venture on track, think the RR would be a big step up from 'standard' car.
>> Edited by tuscan_thunder on Friday 11th June 11:49
I'd echo the red rose route, but for the brakes and suspension rather than any BHP. I think that the grunt varies from car to car and a RR may not always be the fastest IMHO.
I bought a 2001 standard 4.0 car that had AP calipers & hydrotrack as I was already planning to change the suspension for Nitron NTR (a big step up IMHO) and it definately had the best grin inducing acceleration of all the cars I tried(I was originally looking at Cerberas). [however one 1998 4.2 Cerbera was an absolute Rocket ship!]
I'd focus your search on RR but if you are thinking of upgrading the suspension anyway don't overlook the standard cars as you might find a gem that has been run in well and has a more ponies under the bonnet as a result.
Good luck with the search.
I bought a 2001 standard 4.0 car that had AP calipers & hydrotrack as I was already planning to change the suspension for Nitron NTR (a big step up IMHO) and it definately had the best grin inducing acceleration of all the cars I tried(I was originally looking at Cerberas). [however one 1998 4.2 Cerbera was an absolute Rocket ship!]
I'd focus your search on RR but if you are thinking of upgrading the suspension anyway don't overlook the standard cars as you might find a gem that has been run in well and has a more ponies under the bonnet as a result.
Good luck with the search.
Y6 BAL said:
Here you go...
"Ha Ha" or should I say "R" "R"
I really thought you were joking ! ! My wife thought you were serious so after many converstaions between ourselves she rang our dealer and he confirmed that somewhere on the car there will be R R written in marker pen.She was right ( again ! ! )
Just thought that I would confirm it for anyone else who didnt believe it.
[quote=stepr1] There is some fairly re-work in the engine upgrade (30 bhp extra) and it makes the engine resistant to the engine failure that blighted the standard early Tuscans.
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I would like to see the evidence that this comment could be based upon. It is my understanding that all flavours of the 4.0 S6 powerplant have had issues including the later Tuscan S.
I am not defending the S6 here, I just wish to point out that there is no evidence that a Red Rose engine is any more resistant to problems than a standard engine - although I would like to be proven wrong. It is also unsafe to assume that engines made before or after a specific time are more/less likely to fail.
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I would like to see the evidence that this comment could be based upon. It is my understanding that all flavours of the 4.0 S6 powerplant have had issues including the later Tuscan S.
I am not defending the S6 here, I just wish to point out that there is no evidence that a Red Rose engine is any more resistant to problems than a standard engine - although I would like to be proven wrong. It is also unsafe to assume that engines made before or after a specific time are more/less likely to fail.
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