Nikon VS Canon
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WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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OK Chaps, looking toward getting a new camera and handing the Sony back to my dad, since it was his birthday present hehe
I've always thought that my next camera would be a Canon, I'm not sure why, but I did. However, I've just popped into Jacobs this morning and been having a bit of a Q&A Session with the sales staff.

Two cameras I have been looking at are the Canon 7D and the Nikon D7000.

Now on the face of it both cameras seem much the same 18MP (Canon) 16MP (Nikon), Movie mode, both fast cameras for action etc etc.
I like that the Nikon comes with a 18 - 105mm lens, so that's a plus point, but then the additional Canon lenses seem to be ever so slightly cheaper, so likely to cost less in the long run.

Here are my questions. I'd like opinions on personal experiences.
One thing that I like about the D7000 is the fact it can be programmed to shoot Timelapse, can this be done on the Canon? i.e. 1 photo every second, 2 seconds, 3 seconds etc.
Is the movie mode better on the D7000 compared to the 7D?
Which is the more user friendly? / Most instinctive to use?
Is the extra 2MP on the Canon, worth it?
Which if the lenses are the best quality?
Which is the best made?

2 further questions would be;
Where would be the best place to buy either camera?
Is it worth splashing out a little more for the next models up? Canon 5D MkII or the Nikon ???? <- I don't even know what it would be as I've not looked into Nikons in too great a detail. Or should the 7D/D7000 last a lifetime without having to change. i.e. run out of function, if that makes sense?

ETA: I've just noticed that the Nikon D7000 Sensor is full frame, how does the Canon 7D compare? I can't find it online.

Edited by WorAl on Saturday 13th August 14:26

tilley441

330 posts

182 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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I went for Nikon i found that it was a lot more simple to get round the camera, also i have a few laptop programes which work really well with the nikon (cant think of their name atm) you said about Timelapse one of the prog i have lets me connect the nikon to the laptop and then type how many pics, how long i want, lenth of ex etc and it saves them to the laptop (great for star trails)

as for the best place to get any thing camera related go to http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/ i always have a look on there before i buy anything


Oh btw what ever camera you get needs to feel right to you

Simpo Two

92,709 posts

294 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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I can't give a definitive answer but can throw in a few bits.

WorAl said:
Which is the more user friendly? / Most instinctive to use?
That depends on you and where the controls you use most are placed.

WorAl said:
Is the extra 2MP on the Canon, worth it?
Insignificant

WorAl said:
Which if the lenses are the best quality?
The more you pay the better it is likely to be

WorAl said:
Where would be the best place to buy either camera?
I like to buy new stuff from Warehouse Express - good service and no-quibble guarantee if you have problems.

WorAl said:
Is it worth splashing out a little more for the next models up? Canon 5D MkII or the Nikon ???? <- I don't even know what it would be as I've not looked into Nikons in too great a detail. Or should the 7D/D7000 last a lifetime without having to change. i.e. run out of function, if that makes sense?
More pounds will buy you more camera, but it can be like a learner driver buying a Ferrari because it's better isn't it. It may go faster but it may be more than you will ever need/want/use and might be counter productive. So get one that gives you a bit of 'growing room' but be practical too. If you turn out to be the next Mario Testino you can always sell and trade up.

WorAl said:
I've just noticed that the Nikon D7000 Sensor is full frame
No, it's DX. You may have confused it with the D700.

WorAl

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10,877 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Thank you very much so far gents, I realise that the camera has to be best for, but was looking for other persons experiences too, your help is greatly appreciated.

Simpo Two said:
No, it's DX. You may have confused it with the D700.
Yes, I thought so, it may just be the poor wording on the website, now I've re-read it.

GetCarter

31,242 posts

308 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Another vote for Warehouse Express. V.Good.

Nikon or Canon - whatever feels good in your hands.

tilley441

330 posts

182 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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just to clear up http://www.camerapricebuster.co.uk/ is not a shop its a price comparison site thats just for photography

flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

232 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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I'd see if a chain high-street retailer might try to match (or even get close) to the online prices that the likes of Warehouse Express offer. Can be good to be able to actually go to a bricks 'n' mortar shop if you have any quibbles.


As far as the Nikon / Canon choice goes - a lot is argued (in good nature on this forum smile) about the differences between the 'big two', but I would just go for the system that suits you best smile
Both offer a huge range of lenses and accessories from themselves and other manufacturers - lots of choice at a number of different price points.


I've read reviews of the 7D and D7000, both look to be great cameras and I'm sure you would be happy with either, I wouldn't worry about the difference in megapixels for a moment. I would keep in mind that you may want to keep some budget for lenses as well, you'll want the best your budget allows - there are a number of reviews on http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/overview (there is a summary section for each review plus lots of technical info)


Hope this helps

MikeGTi

2,726 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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I've used Warehouse Express a number of times, always perfect service, I'd definitely recommend them.

As for Nikon Vs Canon I really do think it's personal preference. But obviously Canon are better.

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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MikeGTi said:
As for Nikon Vs Canon I really do think it's personal preference. But obviously Canon are better.
this^^^

Nikon for show...Canon for better results

tongue out
do what I did, read the independent tests and see what the experts like....


......and buy a Canon cool


flat-planedCrank

3,697 posts

232 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Impressive this thread managed to get as far as it did before the Nikon vs. Canon argument took hold laugh

If only we could discuss RAW vs. JPG at the same time... winkhehe

ian in lancs

3,853 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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y2blade said:
this^^^

Nikon for show...Canon for better results

tongue out
do what I did, read the independent tests and see what the experts like....


......and buy a Canon cool
Oh dear, there's always one!

y2blade

56,318 posts

244 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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ian in lancs said:
y2blade said:
this^^^

Nikon for show...Canon for better results

tongue out
do what I did, read the independent tests and see what the experts like....


......and buy a Canon cool
Oh dear, there's always one!
wink


MikeGTi

2,726 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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flat-planedCrank said:
If only we could discuss RAW vs. JPG at the same time... winkhehe


ian in lancs

3,853 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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At each price point there is nothing between them. Certainly nothing that technique would or wouln't conceal. Pick the one that feels right or a better piece of advice is go for the one your mates have so you can borrow kit! smile

Don't bother buying a more expensive, the D7000 is fantastic - I know a couple of Pro's that use it(image quality and twin slots), rather put the money into glass instead.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Nikon.

MikeGTi

2,726 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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ian in lancs said:
At each price point there is nothing between them. Certainly nothing that technique would or wouln't conceal. Pick the one that feels right or a better piece of advice is go for the one your mates have so you can borrow kit! smile

Don't bother buying a more expensive, the D7000 is fantastic - I know a couple of Pro's that use it(image quality and twin slots), rather put the money into glass instead.
This.

I got Canon because at the time my mates used Canon, so it meant I could borrow lenses and flashes etc. It all boils down to ergonomics really, buy the camera that feels right.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

283 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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WorAl said:
Two cameras I have been looking at are the Canon 7D and the Nikon D7000.

Now on the face of it both cameras seem much the same 18MP (Canon) 16MP (Nikon), Movie mode, both fast cameras for action etc etc.
I like that the Nikon comes with a 18 - 105mm lens, so that's a plus point, but then the additional Canon lenses seem to be ever so slightly cheaper, so likely to cost less in the long run.

Here are my questions. I'd like opinions on personal experiences.
One thing that I like about the D7000 is the fact it can be programmed to shoot Timelapse, can this be done on the Canon? i.e. 1 photo every second, 2 seconds, 3 seconds etc.
Is the movie mode better on the D7000 compared to the 7D?
Which is the more user friendly? / Most instinctive to use?
Is the extra 2MP on the Canon, worth it?
Which if the lenses are the best quality?
Which is the best made?

2 further questions would be;
Where would be the best place to buy either camera?
Is it worth splashing out a little more for the next models up? Canon 5D MkII or the Nikon ???? <- I don't even know what it would be as I've not looked into Nikons in too great a detail. Or should the 7D/D7000 last a lifetime without having to change. i.e. run out of function, if that makes sense?
Both are great cameras, both are crops (1.6 for canon, 1.55 for nikon).

The 7D is at a step above the D7000 from a body perspective (equivalent to the D300s) for controls and build etc, tho the D7000 isnt built badly and has a metal chassis.


"One thing that I like about the D7000 is the fact it can be programmed to shoot Timelapse, can this be done on the Canon? i.e. 1 photo every second, 2 seconds, 3 seconds etc."

No, canons have no intervalvometer built in, shame, a cheap 3rd party remote can sort this though

"Is the movie mode better on the D7000 compared to the 7D?"
I doubt it, perhaps focus is but canons video is typically much better than nikons efforts.

"Which is the more user friendly? / Most instinctive to use?"
The 7D should be better ignoring brand differences as its a more pro body.

"Is the extra 2MP on the Canon, worth it?"
Not really its 1.3mp and you wouldnt notice. The sensor on the D7000 is better than the 7D, the best crop, and per area the best sensor in any camera. Not so much better you would ignore all else but it has more DR at base ISO and lower noise. It is in fact ISOless, as in no real practical need to ever use the ISO setting (this gets technical).

"Which if the lenses are the best quality? "
Tough question. The 18-55 kit lenses are OK, I found the 18-105 nikon lens quite soft at the longer end, canons 18-135 wont be any better. Theres a huge range of lenses in both mounts, both companies have some stellar glass and some not so great ones.

And they both charge way too much for it all! biggrin


"Which is the best made?"
The 7D is likely to be the best made as its a line above the D7000 but all SLR's are built quite well, my old cheap 350d took tons of abuse, I wouldnt worry about construction on any of them.

You cant pick a bad SLR these days and both have advantages.

andrewrob

2,913 posts

219 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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I would definitely echo what was said in the post above about factoring in what your friends use.
A colleague of mine has a vast collection of L lenses that he's always lending me, as well as flash guns, bellows and all sorts of other kit. Another friend has lent me his flashguns before too.

If I had bought Nikon I wouldn't have experience with any of these bar maybe one lens as my budget for camera gear isn't huge at the moment. Being able to try lenses before I buy them is a major bonus!

Rooster

2,241 posts

266 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Canon every time, used to use Nikon but now I find the Canon feels so much better.

ian in lancs

3,853 posts

227 months

Saturday 13th August 2011
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Nikon's for me! I just can't get on with Canon's - they don't feel right at all!