Possible handling/stability problem
Possible handling/stability problem
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m3jappa

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6,948 posts

247 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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The last couple of times i have driven the car i swear that somethings changed. Basically the rear end feels like its lost some stability. Not straight line stability though.

Say i'm driving in a slight curve full throttle. Well every time i change gear the rear end skips a bit, nothing too bad but not nice.

Say i go round a low speed tight corner and go say half throttle i get some snap oversteer.

I'm sure the car wasn't doing this before, its had a real good geo set up and is on ad08's

I wondered if these cars have rear trailing arm bushes or similar? As i had some go on an m3 once and it behaved in a very similar way.
I suppose the rear toe could have been knocked out also?

dvs_dave

9,040 posts

254 months

Saturday 30th July 2011
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Check the anti-roll bar drop links.

Gazzab

21,635 posts

311 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Tyre tread different on each side?

gruffalo

8,150 posts

255 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Check all of the bushes at the rear, had this once and ended up rebushing the whole rear end as they were all worn, once done all was fine again.

carsy

3,019 posts

194 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Maybe that geo set up isnt quite as good as you think.

m3jappa

Original Poster:

6,948 posts

247 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Pretty sure the geometry was/is good, very good infact.

I might just get it booked in to be looked at as i suppose it could be any of the bushes.

I wouldn't mid re bushing the whole car tbh.

What sort of rough cost do you reckon?

m3jappa

Original Poster:

6,948 posts

247 months

Sunday 31st July 2011
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Just driven it and i do think it could well be rear drop links, its behaving like they are saggy iykwim, its like theres a bit of excess body roll which goes into oversteer.

Is it worth using these ones?
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How much roughly are the standard ones? And i'm guessing its a simple straight swap job, looked easy enough to change last time i was in the wheel arch.

Basil Brush

5,614 posts

292 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Check one of the rear drop links hasn't snapped. The joints seize and then the rod snaps.

I had one go a while back and had the same symptoms. I ended up making my own adjustable ones with decent rose joints and well fitting rubber boots.

domV8

1,408 posts

210 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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(Over-)inflated the tyres recently..?

Zumbruk

7,848 posts

289 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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gruffalo said:
Check all of the bushes at the rear, had this once and ended up rebushing the whole rear end as they were all worn, once done all was fine again.
BTDT.

m3jappa

Original Poster:

6,948 posts

247 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Zumbruk said:
BTDT.
Probably obvious but not sure what that one means? smile

Ordered some leven rear drop links today on the advice of you guys changing them and from dan at taylor tvr so i'll get those on this week and see what happens.

tbh i have a good mind to change every bush on the car anyway as its 10 years old with 55k on it so it may be a good idea either way.

fredd1e

783 posts

249 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Zumbruk said:
BTDT.
=Been there Done that.
ps how many miles have the rear bushes done without being replaced? they dont last forever some of the larger ones (bottom wishbone inner bushes spring to mind) maybe starting to go.

m3jappa

Original Poster:

6,948 posts

247 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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fredd1e said:
=Been there Done that.
ps how many miles have the rear bushes done without being replaced? they dont last forever some of the larger ones (bottom wishbone inner bushes spring to mind) maybe starting to go.
Thanks wink

There always obvious when its written...

Anyway, i'll have to have a look through old receipts but i don't remember seeing any bills for bushes.


Robertjp

2,281 posts

254 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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have a look under the car up at the wishbone mounting points on the chassis, rears are most common to fail, you will probably see a rust trail if the bushes have gone and the wishbones are rubbing on the chassis.

If you do do them, make sure you pop nylon bushes either side of the wishbone when putting back (they werent on as standard).

Definite possibility if one side has gone.

m3jappa

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6,948 posts

247 months

Monday 1st August 2011
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Thanks robert, i'll have a look smile

markreilly

795 posts

201 months

Tuesday 2nd August 2011
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