Petrol prices? They are having a larf...

Petrol prices? They are having a larf...

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pbrettle

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3,280 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Just noticed this on the BBC online news site.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1984000/1984198.stm

Have a read and try not to laugh. It took me a good 10 minutes to wade my way through it without laughing...

A couple of quick quotes:

"I have been taking the train because of the high price of the gas."

"San Diego has the highest prices in the US, averaging around $1.66 a gallon, compared with the national average of $1.39 a gallon."

Dont know they are born....

Cheers,

Paul


thom

2,745 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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"I have been taking the train because of the high price of the gas"

err..excuse me but does this make you laugh?

pbrettle

Original Poster:

3,280 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Thom,

Did you read the article? They are complaining that they are paying $1.69 a gallon for fuel in the USA. Now if my maths is reasonable today this is £1.12 a gallon (OK, so it is a US gallon and not a UK one, but still)....

If anyone knows how to convert litres into gallons we can further illustrate the differences in prices between the UK and USA (also including Europe too)...

Just think it is funny when people are about something like that. I mean, so you save yourself $2 a day. Does that mean you need to take the train?

Cheers,

Paul

.mark

11,104 posts

282 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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You multiply Gallons by 4.54 for UK gallons and by 3.78 for US gallons.

JMorgan

36,010 posts

290 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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1 ltr=0.22 gallon
1 gallon=4.5 ltr

johnny boy

340 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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One US Gallon equals about 0.83 UK Gallons equals about 3.7 litres - so they are paying about 30p litre

thom

2,745 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Well, I agree that saving 2$ a day is ridiculous, but at least people taking the train en masse might have some effect on the prices of petrol: imagine if everybody took the train in Europe in order to protest against the rise of petrol prices, oil companies may not ask for such high prices.

(yeah, I'm being a bit naïve onthis one but hey, where there is hope there is life)

>> Edited by thom on Tuesday 14th May 14:32

marki

15,763 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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imagine if everybody took the train in Europe in order to protest against the rise of petrol prices, oil companies may not ask for such high prices.




It Might work in France but England , can you even begin to think of the chaos if even an extra 10% of people took the train

thom

2,745 posts

279 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Chaos? According to the news I would talk of carnage...But at least there may be much less traffic jams

ap_smith

1,997 posts

272 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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imagine if everybody took the train in Europe
Errm, you've not been watching the UK news then?

johnny boy

340 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Here's another problem:

Leeds - London 400 mile round trip @ 20MPG= £68.00

Standard open train return = £124.00

Can't see people protesting for long!

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

272 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Hmmm, the journey home from London the other Friday was certainly interesting. One of the trains was delayed getting to Waterloo, so every man, woman and child that was heading South jumped onto a next train instead. Talk about overcrowding, it was a complete joke (except it wasn't funny). I don't even want to think about the carnage should that one have hit some dodgy points.

I don't use the train much (unless going into London), but the few experiences I do endure certainly don't encourage me to give up the car more often.

When are trains going to be fitted with seat belts?

pbrettle

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3,280 posts

289 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Twin Turbo

Totally right - I catch the Kings cross to Kings Lynn route (you know the one that is suffering 60% delays at the moment due to a crash!) and it has to be the biggest joke in the world.

The train operators complain about not making enough money. But the trains are 100% full - no thats not right, because they are actually overfull to the tune of around 130%. Standing in all of the isles and at the doors - in all of the carriages (except 1st class of course). So they cant be making enough money then? Hows that? If you have enough passengers to fill TWO trains then surely thats a good thing?!?!? Then if there were more space then more people would take the train.... so wheres the logic there then? Completely lost on me?

Yeah you can never make money on trains that are completely overcrowded could you? Morons. As for your example - round trip to London from Newmarket:

Distance : 60 miles each way
Total cost by car : £14 on fuel and £5 parking = £19
Train before 9:00 : £32 on ticket and £4 parking
Train after 9:00 : £22 on ticket and £4 parking

Which is cheaper? And they cant make money on that???

Morons.

Cheers,

Paul

raceboy

13,250 posts

286 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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I actully used a train for the first time in a long while recently to do a return trip from Nottingham to York, it was actually cheeper by train - £25 return on a Saturday + £2 bus return from home to station, my car would have used at least £30 worth of petrol, + £5 parking.
The train journey took considerably longer than going by car, and if there was more than one person going the car wins again, plus the privacy of the car is a huge plus, so I don't think your going to get me on the train regulaly.

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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When I was without car license for one reason or another (Read: Getting banned for being a naughty boy)I had to get to and from work by public transport. Well public transport doesn't get you twenty miles for 7.15AM and getting home takes two and a half hours and cost about £8. It costs £2 in my car and takes 30-40 minutes depending on the prevailing level of numptyness being exhibited

jedi

197 posts

270 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Youve gotta remember that the high price of petrol over here is mainly due to the TAX charged by the government. I seem to remember it is something like 70% taxed or something stupid.

JMorgan

36,010 posts

290 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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More like 80% I thought.

mattjbatch

1,502 posts

277 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Or 350% depending on which way you look at it

plotloss

67,280 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Its cheaper to driver a 4.5 litre Chim the 4 miles to work than it is to take the tube!

Also, I read somewhere the other day that the Heathrow Express is the most expensive train journey per foot on earth.

When the public transport is cheaper than the car, safe, clean and not ridiculously overcrowded I will start using it but as they train and bus companies have to buy fuel at stupid rates then this day will never come, and as far as I am concerned at the moment hoo-ing-ra!

Matt.

mondeoman

11,430 posts

272 months

Tuesday 14th May 2002
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Try factoring in depreciation, servicing, tyres, etc.... and you might (I do say might) get a different answer........ But then again who wants to get jammed in with loads of sweaty oiks!??? pooooooo eeeeeeeeee!