Korean + A380 = OOppps
Author
Discussion

scarebus

Original Poster:

858 posts

200 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
I hope this is not the start of a bad trend of boo boo's






Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Those Koreans.

If someone is going to crash an airliner, it will be the Koreans.

croyde

26,285 posts

259 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
yikes What's the story?

XJSJohn

16,151 posts

248 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
croyde said:
yikes What's the story?
new airplane, pilot not spent enough time in simulator??

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
With the smoke is he landing? Sidewind at an inopportune moment?

Simpo Two

92,653 posts

294 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
Those Koreans.

If someone is going to crash an airliner, it will be the Koreans.
Having flown Korean Air I reckon the food is something to do with it. Mind you the 'entertainment' would drive some to suicide as well...!

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
ChiChoAndy said:
With the smoke is he landing? Sidewind at an inopportune moment?
Or tyres going from stopped to 150mph (ish) in a fraction of a second, stop on touchdown is normal I thought?

ChiChoAndy

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Hooli said:
Or tyres going from stopped to 150mph (ish) in a fraction of a second, stop on touchdown is normal I thought?
Huh?

scarebus

Original Poster:

858 posts

200 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
croyde said:
yikes What's the story?
from Avherald (link http://www.avherald.com/h?article=4400bee5&opt...



Incident: Korean A388 at Tokyo on Jul 21st 2011, engine pod strike

By Simon Hradecky, created Thursday, Jul 21st 2011 17:25Z, last updated Thursday, Jul 21st 2011 17:26Z
A Korean Air Airbus A380-800, registration HL7611 performing flight KE-701 from Seoul (South Korea) to Tokyo Narita (Japan) with 168 people on board, landed on Tokyo's runway 34L at a right bank angle sufficient to have the outboard right engine's pod contact the runway surface. The airplane rolled out safely at around 11:20L (02:20Z) and taxied to the apron.

The airport reported the runway was closed for about 20 minutes for a runway inspection which revealed scratch marks on the runway surface.

Following checks the aircraft was able to perform its return flight KE-702 normally reaching Seoul with a delay of one hour.

Metars:
RJAA 210330Z 02020KT 9999 FEW015 BKN020 BKN035 20/16 Q1005 WS R34R TEMPO 04018G30KT RMK 1CU015 5CU020 7SC035 A2968
RJAA 210300Z 02022G33KT 8000 FEW015 BKN020 BKN030 19/15 Q1005 NOSIG RMK 2ST015 5CU020 7SC030 A2968 0254 MOD TURB 500FT AND BLW ON DEP COURSE RWY34L B77W

RJAA 210042Z 02021G31KT 8000 FEW009 BKN012 BKN015 19/17 Q1004 WS R34L WS R34R RMK 2ST009 5CU012 7CU015 A2966 0030 WS PS MS 10KT 2000FT AND BLW ON DEP COURSE RWY

ETOPS

3,974 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Eric Mc said:
Those Koreans.

If someone is going to crash an airliner, it will be the Koreans.
There's a very high chance that the flight deck was occupied by non-Koreans.

Pretty unsubstantiated comment, Eric.

If it were the same, but Air France, you'd be on to something!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
ETOPS said:
Eric Mc said:
Those Koreans.

If someone is going to crash an airliner, it will be the Koreans.
There's a very high chance that the flight deck was occupied by non-Koreans.

Pretty unsubstantiated comment, Eric.

If it were the same, but Air France, you'd be on to something!
If you ho back over the decades, you will see that Korean Air Lines has not got a great record. I was making no comment on the nationality of the crews that fly their planes.

ETOPS

3,974 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Fair enough. There is reason to believe they are getting better.

I've spoken to two pilots who landed at Narita that day, both said that conditions were dreadful. One pilot said it was the most challenging approach in his entire career. Dreadful windshear and large athwartships gusts. Japanese approach procedures are tenuous at the best of times, but according to those I spoke to, there's no surprise that a jumbo clipped a pod. Combined with the fact that Airbii are pretty tricky in windshear.

Sadly, I'm sure there's a couple of P45s in the post.


Edited by ETOPS on Saturday 23 July 13:15

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Beats me how anyone can fly these leviathans.

ETOPS

3,974 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
Things going pear-shaped is when we earn our pay. I'm certainly a believer that we've got to fill our bucket of experience before our bucket of luck runs dry.

It could well be that the bucket of A380 experience was very empty, given that these guys will have had no more A380 landings than you've got fingers.

magpie215

5,016 posts

218 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
They have a track record :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTl1nQ9bO1Y

Flintstone

8,644 posts

276 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
XJSJohn said:
aeroplane
wink

ETOPS

3,974 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
magpie215 said:
They have a track record :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTl1nQ9bO1Y
Pah! That was a pretty standard Kai Tak day. Southerly winds would push you wide as you turned off the IGS. Much crosswind carnage ensued. Of course, we, as the hosts, knew the little tips and tricks to avoid looking like that 744 in the video.

beer

croyde

26,285 posts

259 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
More importantly, an aircraft that big with only 168 people on board!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
I thought that too.

Hooli

32,278 posts

229 months

Saturday 23rd July 2011
quotequote all
ChiChoAndy said:
Hooli said:
Or tyres going from stopped to 150mph (ish) in a fraction of a second, stop on touchdown is normal I thought?
Huh?
The tyres won't be rotating till they hit the floor, so I'd have thought a puff of smoke as the tyres skid before spinning up to speed is normal?