Tornado in covenrty now
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SeeFive

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Working in Coventry. Someone just pointed out a large black funnel from a cloud a way away.

Anyone under it / got any more info?

MK4 Slowride

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.

Riley Blue

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256 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Large black funnel - Tornado, are you sure it's not a steam locomotive?

Life Saab Itch

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218 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Let's hope it finishes what the Germans started.

Mr Gearchange

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236 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
'tis true - Stephen Fry said so. teacher

elster

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240 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
It is indeed true.

SeeFive

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Can't see the train, this is it - it got a lot lower behind the treeline but not sure if it touched down - hence the post. The pic doesn't really do it justice as it was a lot darker and more defined by eye.


300bhp/ton

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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elster said:
MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
It is indeed true.
But only by area, not in shear number. And this is largely due to the high population density of the UK compared to mainland Europe, i.e. there are far more people per sq mile in the UK to report a tornado sighting.

But yes they are usually small tornado's not the supercell produced ones in the Great Plains of the US.

For more info check out: http://www.torro.org.uk/site/index.php

Fume troll

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Life Saab Itch said:
Let's hope it finishes what the Germans started.
Caused £3m of improvements...etc...

Cheers,

FT.

300bhp/ton

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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SeeFive said:
Can't see the train, this is it - it got a lot lower behind the treeline but not sure if it touched down - hence the post. The pic doesn't really do it justice as it was a lot darker and more defined by eye.

The visible vapour of a tornado is only a side affect. Even if you can't see it, it doesn't mean it hasn't reached the ground.

DWP

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Fume troll said:
Life Saab Itch said:
Let's hope it finishes what the Germans started.
Caused £3m of improvements...etc...

Cheers,

FT.
Coming from Coventry, as I do, I feel I can offer the following; That the planners did far more damage than the bombers. But with a lower death toll.

Mr Gearchange

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236 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
elster said:
MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
It is indeed true.
usually small tornado's not the supercell produced ones in the Great Plains of the US.
What - you mean to say that Coventry doesn't get the same sized Tornado's as Kansas? Are you sure?


I'm pretty sure that the film "Twister" - the one where they go chasing Tornado's was filmed just outside of Tamworth.scratchchin

ETA - bugger me you were right. I checked and that film was set in the USA. Good to know we have our own veritable Michael Fish on here to tell us that the UK doesn't get the fk off sized Tornado's that the US Mid-West does.
I really wish you had shared this valuable information before I worked all winter building a shelter for Tornado season. mad

300bhp/ton

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Mr Gearchange said:
300bhp/ton said:
elster said:
MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
It is indeed true.
usually small tornado's not the supercell produced ones in the Great Plains of the US.
What - you mean to say that Coventry doesn't get the same sized Tornado's as Kansas? Are you sure?


I'm pretty sure that the film "Twister" - the one where they go chasing Tornado's was filmed just outside of Tamworth.scratchchin

ETA - bugger me you were right. I checked and that film was set in the USA. Good to know we have our own veritable Michael Fish on here to tell us that the UK doesn't get the fk off sized Tornado's that the US Mid-West does.
I really wish you had shared this valuable information before I worked all winter building a shelter for Tornado season. mad
While you are being sarky stop and consider that it is possible. Tornado's can occur anywhere on the globe pretty much and have been witnessed at the tops of mountains and in the arctic.

As a general rule of thumb the UK land mass is not sufficient for large scale supercells to build enough energy over land. But the possibility exists that large tornado's are not an impossibility over the UK, just far less frequent.

smile

silent k

783 posts

261 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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There was supposedly one earlier here in Leamington as well.

Perhaps I should buy one of those big trucks in and go chasing tornado's round the Midlands?

Pesty

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286 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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coventry? no great loss if it were wiped out.

(although the racket club is quite nice and there is a decent indian in the center)

covmutley

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220 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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I can't have a thread bashing planners and Coventry without defending myself!

How come when somewhere is good the architects did well, yet when it's rubbish it's the planners? Planners were only responding to what architects saw as 'modernism'.

Bu then I have left Coventry, for Wales, which says a lot!


Dr Jekyll

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291 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Has it been hailed as proof of global warming yet?

davebeast

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185 months

Wednesday 20th July 2011
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MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
Birmingham 2005, London 2006, and many more have done significant damage in recent years, and have rivalled US tornadoes in ferocity

300bhp/ton said:
As a general rule of thumb the UK land mass is not sufficient for large scale supercells to build enough energy over land. But the possibility exists that large tornado's are not an impossibility over the UK, just far less frequent.

smile
Per square mile, the UK gets more tornadoes than anywhere else on earth. Also, tornadoes don't need a supercell to form, as they can form on LEWP bow echos on linear type storms, as well as on gust fronts from single cell storms.

Have posted this on a weather forum i'm involved with as we have a few meteorologists who specialise in tornado/funnel cloud development.

http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/forums/threa...

Edited by davebeast on Wednesday 20th July 20:38

300bhp/ton

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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davebeast said:
MK4 Slowride said:
Quite sure I read somewhere that the UK has the higest amount of touchdown tornados than anywhere else, just they are all tiny.
Birmingham 2005, London 2006, and many more have done significant damage in recent years, and have rivalled US tornadoes in ferocity
Rivalled is a little vague? The number of F3 tornado's or greater in the UK is significantly less than the US, I suspect even by area.

I don't know of hand, but where any of the ones you cite really F5's? I didn't think they were.

davebeast said:
300bhp/ton said:
As a general rule of thumb the UK land mass is not sufficient for large scale supercells to build enough energy over land. But the possibility exists that large tornado's are not an impossibility over the UK, just far less frequent.

smile
Per square mile, the UK gets more tornadoes than anywhere else on earth.
cough cough

gets more reportedwink

And umm, what I posted earlier in the thread:

300bhp/ton said:
But only by area, not in shear number. And this is largely due to the high population density of the UK compared to mainland Europe, i.e. there are far more people per sq mile in the UK to report a tornado sighting.

But yes they are usually small tornado's not the supercell produced ones in the Great Plains of the US.

For more info check out: http://www.torro.org.uk/site/index.php
smile




davebeast said:
Also, tornadoes don't need a supercell to form, as they can form on LEWP bow echos on linear type storms, as well as on gust fronts from single cell storms.
Agree smile

Although most larger tornado's don't form in this way.


davebeast said:
Have posted this on a weather forum i'm involved with as we have a few meteorologists who specialise in tornado/funnel cloud development.

http://www.ukweatherworld.co.uk/forum/forums/threa...

Edited by davebeast on Wednesday 20th July 20:38
Cheers for the link smile

Slinky

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Wednesday 20th July 2011
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Cow....

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