Armour Fend
Armour Fend
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Tuscaholic

Original Poster:

281 posts

255 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Hi Again !

Read about armour fend on a few cars is it the thin plastic stuff you put on the front to stop chips ?

Does it look ok ?

Wheres it from ?

How much is it?

Fors Against all views welcome

Thanks

Clive

alans

3,528 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Expensive, cheeper to have a front end respray. Polish shows up the edges and if you get hit by a larger stone it blisters. All IMHO of course.

Alan

lady topaz

3,855 posts

270 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Personally dont like it. It consists of a plastic film which covers half the service bonnet, and various strips around chosen edges ie roof panel if desired. On darker cars the service bonnet can look like someones taken a blade to it. It will protect the paint from minor chips but there is an awful lot of front still unprotected. I was told by a dealer that armorfend also invalidates any paint warranty. The cost so I'm led to believe is around £800, but someone who has had it done should be able to confirm. I found it cheaper to get a front end re-spray. As they say, you pays the money, you take the choice. If I were you I would get to a dealer and see for yourself prior to getting it done. Most will have a car or two with it on.

whitey

2,508 posts

300 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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handy for around door sills and boot edges, B-posts where the roof pins are etcs, but IMHO a waste of time on the front.

It's fine until you get a couple of stonechips on areas that are not protected by the armourfend, then it really shows up!

cheers
Whitey

alans

3,528 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Los Angeles said:
Resprays add weight, (lift a litre tin of paint)

Prehaps the F1 boys should not paint their cars


whitey

2,508 posts

300 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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I should definitey have a performance advantage then due to lack of paint from the amount of stonechips on the front of my armourfended Tuscan

alans

3,528 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Los Angeles said:
Good one, Whitey. the more stone chips, the lower the weight, the faster it'll go. Superb logic. Colin Chapman would have loved that The early MX5s kept weight down by using only two undercoats and three colour coats, when other manufacturers used a minimum of five main coats as standard. That's why so many early nineties MX5s have lost their paint bloom, susceptible to oxidisation.



Excuse me but as an ex ford robotics paint engineer, I think you will find cars have the following:
Electrophorectic dip
primer (1 coat)
colour coat (1 coat)which varies between 40 - 65 MICRONS in thickness.
lacquer (1 coat),
3/4 of the total paint on a car (which aint very much) is also on the front 1/2 of the car. Jag's certainly do (I wrote the software) but the DB7 (using the XK8 assembly line) go through twice.
If the finish of the base coat has imperfections, it can go through the paint shop a max of 3 times and then it will be scrapped.
Oxidation has absolutly nothing to do with paint thickness but is caused by the sun's uv rays affecting the paint pigment (red is the worst). Paint pigment manufacturers have a standard test, it must remain stable for 3 years in california.

Alan


>> Edited by alans on Saturday 29th May 12:55

alans

3,528 posts

272 months

Saturday 29th May 2004
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Los Angeles said:
Gulp! You'd think no one was out there on a Bank Holiday weekend. I defer to your knowledge and experience, although Mazda did use fewer coats than others. And yes, red MX5s do suffer the worst.


I know, I'm very sad
You are right about red, my tusc roof has been resprayed due to pigment fade!
You would be absolutly amazed at the actual volume of paint on a car. (robot applied, not hand sprayed)

355f

516 posts

264 months

Sunday 30th May 2004
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I had it done on my car.

Firstly its very expensive my bumber was £450.

It does stop the normal light dusting of chips that one gets but it does NOT stop the larger stuff and the problem is that when the film is penetrated it looks awful.

Better to have it resprayed now and again and at least you can polish out the bigger chips

sacha

504 posts

270 months

Monday 31st May 2004
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some dealer hate it, when i was trading in my tuscan, they said if it was fitted they would actually offer less!!! beware!

alans

3,528 posts

272 months

Monday 31st May 2004
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Los Angeles said:
And if it was a Tuscan they'd also offer less!


sorry for a minute I thought we were having an intelligent conversation, oh well.

T88CAN

3,474 posts

273 months

Monday 31st May 2004
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alans said:

Los Angeles said:
And if it was a Tuscan they'd also offer less!



sorry for a minute I thought we were having an intelligent conversation, oh well.


The words "intelligent conversation" and Tuscan Forum, seems to be going out of the window at times alan

dvpeace

611 posts

256 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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I got a quote for mine; it was about £300 for a small area and was an additional £100 for each other piece you wanted. I was not sure about the looks either; I decided not to bother in the end.

David

ehasler

8,574 posts

299 months

Tuesday 1st June 2004
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I give ArmourFend a thumbs up, but it's down to personal choice - I'd rather have a slight line on my paintwork than countless stone chips and regular re-sprays so got Armourfend fitted at the dealer when I ordered the car. Cost was about £750, but it should be able to get it cheaper if you go to Armourfend directly.

How it looks on the car does depend a lot on colour as well I think - I've had it on 3 cars now, a blue Griff, orange Westfield and a black Tuscan and it's been barely noticeable on all 3. I think the best thing to do is to have a look at a few cars with and without it fitted and see what you think.

>> Edited by ehasler on Tuesday 1st June 11:05