Caveman diet

[dirty boy]

Anyone have any thoughts/experiences with it?

I'm currently on day 4, although it went sts to tits on Saturday night, as I was on a Stag Night out, however, I limited myself to Gin & Slimline Tonic only, and didn't get drunk, so not a normal session by any stretch, i'm sure having 3/4 pints of cider would have been worse than 6/7 G&Ts?

I've got a couple of 'cheats' i'm using, firstly, a protein shake, as it's convenient time wise to consume and help with upping my calories, and i'm also taking a multivitamin, but then i've been taking those for a few months anyway.

In general i've consumed eggs, turkey, chicken and bacon (unsmoked from butcher, fat timmed) and last night a whopping great big bid of cod together with vegetables/salads etc.

I've been nibbling at blueberries, pistachios and walnuts all weekend, and did't realise how nice blueberries were! I've been missing out!

Another 'slight' deviation was friday night, where I didn't take out the kidney beans from my chilli con carne, (but there weren't many) and put half a sweet potato in to bulk it up a bit, but they're allowed in slight moderation apparently.

So carbs have been massively limited, mainly coming from fruit and veg.

I'm craving an ice cold pint of milk for some reason, and breakfast is 'doing my head in' slightly, as i've been eating porridge for years! Can't quite get my head round that one.

I'm not sure how it's going to go, what i'm eating doesn't seem unhealthy in the slightest (apart from the protein shake, as that feels un-natural)

So, just after other thoughts and experiences if anyone has any.

I'm giving it my all, just for a month (till my holiday) if it works out, all well and good, if not, well, i'll just stick with eating normal pastary/ricey/potatoey/bready stuff I suppose.

[UncleRic]

dirty boy said:

I'm craving an ice cold pint of milk.

Gwaaannnn.. spoil yourself (semi-skimmed..)

researcher types said:

The researchers claim people who drink milk or eat milk products lose more weight on average than slimmers who shun dairy. The key to milk's slimming success could be its vitamin D, say the scientists, since the dieters who had the highest vitamin D levels were those who lost the most weight.

dairy farmers said:

The study found that adults who ate (or drank) the highest amount of dairy per day lost about 12 pounds at the six-month point, while those who got the least amount of calcium from dairy lost just 7 pounds after two years.

[Ordinary_Chap]

UncleRic said:

dirty boy said:

I'm craving an ice cold pint of milk.

Gwaaannnn.. spoil yourself (semi-skimmed..)

researcher types said:

The researchers claim people who drink milk or eat milk products lose more weight on average than slimmers who shun dairy. The key to milk's slimming success could be its vitamin D, say the scientists, since the dieters who had the highest vitamin D levels were those who lost the most weight.

dairy farmers said:

The study found that adults who ate (or drank) the highest amount of dairy per day lost about 12 pounds at the six-month point, while those who got the least amount of calcium from dairy lost just 7 pounds after two years.

Quite honestly that is very subjective.

For instance milk purity tends to be very low in the UK and milk often contains a lot of carbs as well as fats and we know what happens to the body in that scenario.

A lot also argue over the fact it can increase cholesterol among other things and contains a significant amount of toxins.

However this is shop milk I'm talking about, real milk that hasn't been treated is generally considered very good although I don't think legally it can be sold in shops here (someone correct me if I've got this wrong).

[dirty boy]

So it would be okay to drink milk straight from the udder?

[Ordinary_Chap]

dirty boy said:

So it would be okay to drink milk straight from the udder?

Haha no but with a minimal amount of treatment as opposed to the hefty amount of extra things added to it at processing facilitates.

It's all subjective there is a lot of different schools of thought on the subject but milk that contains a high carb/fat content isn't going to be good for weight loss, that much is for sure.

[RemainAllHoof]

Just to be safe, find a mother who is still breast feeding and ask if you can use her spare one for dietary reasons.

[dirty boy]

RemainAllHoof said:

Just to be safe, find a mother who is still breast feeding and ask if you can use her spare one for dietary reasons.

That would just be so wrong, on sooo many levels.



But I like the idea. Cheers.

[Tonsko]

Ordinary_Chap said:

However this is shop milk I'm talking about, real milk that hasn't been treated is generally considered very good although I don't think legally it can be sold in shops here (someone correct me if I've got this wrong).

This is correct, it can't legally be sold full stop unless it's to a processing plant. However, if you know a friendly dairy farmer, you might be able to get hold of some.

[RemainAllHoof]

dirty boy said:

RemainAllHoof said:

Just to be safe, find a mother who is still breast feeding and ask if you can use her spare one for dietary reasons.

That would just be so wrong, on sooo many levels.



But I like the idea. Cheers.

Dunno why we find it wrong - we pretty much all did it once in our lives.

[Working class]

Well I am following a diet very similar to that and I am losing weight and I am drinking milk everyday!

[dirty boy]

Just to let you know.

Just back from the gym.

Weighed in at 12st 2lbs, so have lost 5lbs since Friday. I'm assuming some/most of that, is water retention, but not feeling bloated is a lovely feeling.

Feels like it's going well already.

[Working class]

dirty boy said:

Just to let you know.

Just back from the gym.

Weighed in at 12st 2lbs, so have lost 5lbs since Friday. I'm assuming some/most of that, is water retention, but not feeling bloated is a lovely feeling.

Feels like it's going well already.

Excellent work! Keep it up!

[Lost_BMW]

dirty boy said:

So it would be okay to drink milk straight from the udder?

Yes, but it has been known to cause facial damage.

[toast boy]

Whilst I can see the biological benefits in eating things that we have evolved to, I'm not sure I'd choose that kind of diet. To be honest I wouldn't choose any kind diet that constrains what I want to eat, other than eat more to put on weight (what I'm doing now) or eat less to lose weight (hopefully will never happen!).

For me the purpose of food and exercise is to keep me healthy and help me enjoy life as much as possible. If a diet stops me from eating what I want then I'm not enjoying myself as much, ditto if an exercise regime means I have no free time.

Obviously there's a middle ground somewhere, I'm not going to be a sedentary eating machine stuffing my face with chocolate all day but I'm happy to lose a few years off the end of my life for the ability to fully enjoy the life that I have.

Just my 2p.

[dirty boy]

toast boy said:

Whilst I can see the biological benefits in eating things that we have evolved to, I'm not sure I'd choose that kind of diet. To be honest I wouldn't choose any kind diet that constrains what I want to eat, other than eat more to put on weight (what I'm doing now) or eat less to lose weight (hopefully will never happen!).

For me the purpose of food and exercise is to keep me healthy and help me enjoy life as much as possible. If a diet stops me from eating what I want then I'm not enjoying myself as much, ditto if an exercise regime means I have no free time.

Obviously there's a middle ground somewhere, I'm not going to be a sedentary eating machine stuffing my face with chocolate all day but I'm happy to lose a few years off the end of my life for the ability to fully enjoy the life that I have.

Just my 2p.

I agree with what you're saying.

I'm also of the opinion, that i'm not going to stick to this so rigidly i'm going to drive myself nuts.

Yesterday was my anniversary, after i'd gorged myself on scallops, fillet steak, king prawns and veg, I treated myself to half a dozen chips, and they were lovely, but that was plenty.

I also had a glass of red wine, again, lovely, but only had one instead of 2 or 3 like I normally would have done.

I'm now on day 5 and already feel better with myself (sounds weird, but it's true)

Looking forward to seeing results next week already, quite exciting.

[toast boy]

dirty boy said:

Stuff

Fair enough, like I say, I can see and agree with the biology so if you can incorporate it without sacrificing your quality of life then go for it!

[RemainAllHoof]

This is why I describe myself as 80% vegetarian. I eat pretty healthily and also tend towards eating less meat but I still like a good bacon sandwich or doner* kebab.

I mean, it'd be great to have an ultra lean, ripped body but what exactly is the point? You work your arse off (restrictive diet plus hard punishment in the gym) to get a Men's Health magazine cover look but so fking what? "I was on June 2011's front cover!" "And?"

(*-should it be "donor"? )

Edited by RemainAllHoof on Wednesday 29th June 12:31

[dirty boy]

RemainAllHoof said:

This is why I describe myself as 80% vegetarian. I eat pretty healthily and also tend towards eating less meat but I still like a good bacon sandwich or doner* kebab.

I mean, it'd be great to have an ultra lean, ripped body but what exactly is the point? You work your arse off (restrictive diet plus hard punishment in the gym) to get a Men's Health magazine cover look but so fking what? "I was on June 2011's front cover!" "And?"

(*-should it be "donor"? )

Edited by RemainAllHoof on Wednesday 29th June 12:31

Not so much about being vein, but I suspect my wife would enjoy shagging a cover model body man rather than a podgy bloke.

She'd never say that to me, but as I aim to please, what better way than with a rack of abs and a set of biceps so that I could pull myself through the other side of her arse.

[RemainAllHoof]

dirty boy said:

Not so much about being vein, but I suspect my wife would enjoy shagging a cover model body man rather than a podgy bloke.

She'd never say that to me, but as I aim to please, what better way than with a rack of abs and a set of biceps so that I could pull myself through the other side of her arse.

Sure, but there's "cover model", slim and podgy. It takes a lot less effort to be slim than "cover model". I am only mildly toned because of the sports I do and to assist in the sports that I do, rather than having the sole aim of looking like a cover model as it serves no purpose; in fact, I tend to avoid working my legs beyond the need to stand for long periods and kicking as it would mean extra weight to haul up a wall.

What I mean is, you don't have to punish yourself and feel like a failure if you don't look like a male model. The male model is paid to look like that; you're not, so you might as well live a little.

Edited by RemainAllHoof on Wednesday 29th June 17:34

[RichyBoy]

Is this the weston price diet thing?