New Nuclear Sites named
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Story here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
Can expect a loooooong process before a spade goes in the ground. Seem Fukishima hasn't put the breaks on too much.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
Can expect a loooooong process before a spade goes in the ground. Seem Fukishima hasn't put the breaks on too much.
andrew311 said:
Story here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
Can expect a loooooong process before a spade goes in the ground. Seem Fukishima hasn't put the breaks on too much.
About bloody time toohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
Can expect a loooooong process before a spade goes in the ground. Seem Fukishima hasn't put the breaks on too much.
can we PLEASE have some energy security.....
odyssey2200 said:
Who is going to build, Own, and operate them?
Can we guess the nationality of the owners?
I can tell you that land in Cumbria was bought sometime ago by a Spanish led consortium as well as the Germans getting in on the action.Can we guess the nationality of the owners?
Sadly we lost our design capability when we sold Westinghouse to the Japanese/Toshiba. Chances are they’ll be French design (PWR type), hopefully British built and ran but who knows. Sad really when we were working on 3rd.4th, and 5th generation designs decades ago.
Great news, finally. I was at Heysham around Christmas time and the space is there for the new station, all that was needed is approval from Government I think.
According to someone I was speaking to, they will indeed be the PWR type, rather than AGR even though there is obviously a lot of AGR expertise on site.
According to someone I was speaking to, they will indeed be the PWR type, rather than AGR even though there is obviously a lot of AGR expertise on site.
andrew311 said:
Caulkhead said:
None in Scotland I notice. . . . . .
They never wanted to be in the running, generally anti- nuclear and have plenty of wind and rain to generate power apparently.....-crookedtail- said:
odyssey2200 said:
Who is going to build, Own, and operate them?
Can we guess the nationality of the owners?
Électricité de France. Can we guess the nationality of the owners?
Note in the report about the new Nuke sites 'no' mention of yesterday's French news.
Perhaps it would give everyone the jitters?
Wed 22 June 2011
EDF denied yesterday there had been radioactive leaks at any of its French nuclear plants, after market talk of a possible incident hit its share price.
EDF shares down as much as 2.3 pct on strong volume
Leaks, radioactive discharges reported by EDF website
Separate plant being reconnected after minor fault.
Minor fault in separate plant.
TBH Cumbria isn't the best place economically I suspect as there will have to be upgrades to the existing system to run into the national grid. However politically West Cumbria has had nuclear in its back yard for 60 odd years so in theory the majority of locals will want it as it’s a huge employer in the area. I suspect this will ring true in other areas which already have stations.
andrew311 said:
Story here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
Can expect a loooooong process before a spade goes in the ground. Seem Fukishima hasn't put the breaks on too much.
Brakes! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13887579
Can expect a loooooong process before a spade goes in the ground. Seem Fukishima hasn't put the breaks on too much.
We are not prone to devastating earthquakes so not *that* much to learn from Fukishima in that respect....
Nuclear power needs to happen in the long term (for next 50/100 years at least), if we build them we have control over our own energy. We can put all the necessary safeguards in that are required to minimise any perceived risk.
The other option is that we import our energy from France, either way nuclear is the known way forward for now.
If there really is a shortage of gas/coal imminent, nuclear becomes the only realistic solution. I suspect, if safe (as in can build stations safely) countries do not build their own, wars will be fought over energy in 50 years time. France will possibly become quite powerful which is OK whilst we/Germany/etc. are "friends" with them. Nothing stays the same though, it' wasn't *that* long ago, historically speaking, that we were at war with Germany for example.
^^^^Whoops on the typo!!
Agree with all you’ve said, when I was at uni I remember a lecturer saying that he’d calculated that for wind power to satisfy our energy requirement in the future that they’d need to be 100 deep and surround the entire coast line of the UK. A know a few people who work for EDF and have been getting crash course French and shipped over there to work, presumably in readiness for the UK new reactor fleet.
Perhaps now is the time to buy shares in Uranium? Will be interesting to see if the government go with the ‘once through’ cycle like the Americans or op for re-processing. I hope it’s the latter.
Agree with all you’ve said, when I was at uni I remember a lecturer saying that he’d calculated that for wind power to satisfy our energy requirement in the future that they’d need to be 100 deep and surround the entire coast line of the UK. A know a few people who work for EDF and have been getting crash course French and shipped over there to work, presumably in readiness for the UK new reactor fleet.
Perhaps now is the time to buy shares in Uranium? Will be interesting to see if the government go with the ‘once through’ cycle like the Americans or op for re-processing. I hope it’s the latter.
We have yet to see the long term consequence to the nuclear industry of Fukishima, so given the long timescale involved in the decision process on a new plant I believe it is too early to tell how much damage it will cause to public opinion.
Though it is not covered in the British press, Fukushima's problems are very far from resolved. The company's significant underreporting of the seriousness of the accident suffered by the plant is now emerging.
Though it is not covered in the British press, Fukushima's problems are very far from resolved. The company's significant underreporting of the seriousness of the accident suffered by the plant is now emerging.
The first new Nuclear, Hinkley C is much further along than many might realise.
Tendering for the construction is in it's final stages and ground works to prepare the site are due to start soon.
As for reactor type, no AGR as that is now very old technology.
Infact the new reactors will not even be PWR's like Sizewell B but a significant development of that technology the EPR.
Tendering for the construction is in it's final stages and ground works to prepare the site are due to start soon.
As for reactor type, no AGR as that is now very old technology.
Infact the new reactors will not even be PWR's like Sizewell B but a significant development of that technology the EPR.
Roberty said:
The first new Nuclear, Hinkley C is much further along than many might realise.
Tendering for the construction is in it's final stages and ground works to prepare the site are due to start soon.
As for reactor type, no AGR as that is now very old technology.
Infact the new reactors will not even be PWR's like Sizewell B but a significant development of that technology the EPR.
You deleted your last post before I had chance to reply to it. There has obviously been discussions behind closed doors for a while now and you wouldn’t have thought anyone would buy land useless to anyone else unless they had been ‘rubber stamped’. Tendering for the construction is in it's final stages and ground works to prepare the site are due to start soon.
As for reactor type, no AGR as that is now very old technology.
Infact the new reactors will not even be PWR's like Sizewell B but a significant development of that technology the EPR.
AGR is a pretty good design and has a higher thermal efficiency than as PWR and the fuel requires far less enrichment. Whether or not the AGR is better than the PWR design is up for debate, PWR’s are certainly more popular the world over and thus have more safety data.
Chrisw666 said:
Can I just say 
jobs. And 
at the inevitable nimby effort that will now go on, which based on history will be led by crusties who pay no tax and reside hundreds of miles away.
Two of the new nuke stations will be on existing sites, Bradwell on Sea in Essex and the second will be next door to Sizewell B suffolk coast. It will be almost an unchallenged planning process, relatively, as residents within 30 miles of each site are already accustomed to the glow of nuke energy. jobs. And at the inevitable nimby effort that will now go on, which based on history will be led by crusties who pay no tax and reside hundreds of miles away. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff