EuroBOSS - a way round the tobacco law?

EuroBOSS - a way round the tobacco law?

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steviebee

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13,373 posts

261 months

Monday 24th May 2004
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Carrying on from posts elsewhere about the boredom factor of EuroBOSS, the concensus is clear that one needs at least 12 cars for it to be anything other than a demonstartion of speed.

The one thing (i guess) that stands in the way is cost - even for the mega rich, to run a post 90' F1 car is a huge sap on one's wedge!

IIRC, I've heard and read elsewhere that there does exist a complex loophole in the tobacco advertising ban that, in simple terms, permits "historic" cars to carry fag branding and as such, TV coverage of the same is permitted. After all, it would not be feasible to re-paint cars for Goodwood etc..

So, what they need to do, is negotiate TV coverage of the series and get the fag companies to stump up the cash to run cars with their branding on them (Jordan; B&H, Williams: Rothmans, Benetton Camel/Mild Seven, etc).

Lower costs, bigger grids, better racing!

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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the thing is if you have for example, a benetton or a a McLaren from the early nineties, unless you get a good deal from sponsors outside the tobacco world, i think the majority of people would run the car in the original colours purely for authenticity. That way the tobacco companies still keep their name on the cars.

I cant see EuroBOSS being anything other than a very expensive Club series unfortunatly. Nothing bad about the series its just a case of nostalgic fools like us who want to see it. The majority of F1 fans these days are more interested in the big name drivers rather than the cars and the quality of the race. Each monday after a race, a colleague talks to me about how good the race was.

Incidentally, I watched the 1975 season on Motors TV last night. They set the camera up at the chicane of watkins glen and caught every car coming through sideways on the throttle!......

FourWheelDrift

89,386 posts

290 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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pablo said:


Incidentally, I watched the 1975 season on Motors TV last night. They set the camera up at the chicane of watkins glen and caught every car coming through sideways on the throttle!......


That was the temporary chicane put in at the Esses following Ceverts accident in 73. They would have been going through there quicker otherwise.

As for Euroboss I've not seen it for ages but I have watched the FIA Historic Grand Prix's they also run in original livery. Unlike EuroBoss where you can change the livery it's part of the rules for the FIA series. Care must run in the same colours and sponsors they had when they raced. So in the 4 classes you get Gold Leaf Lotus 49's, various JPS Lotus's and Marlboro McLaren M23's. They even raced as a support to the Bahrain Grand Prix recently.

exint2

282 posts

263 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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from July it will be illeagal to have any tobacco branding at all on anything in europe - that include model cars! - so from July you will not be able to buy cars in thier origianl "fag" livery - so no more Malboro Mclaren or JPS I'm afraid - believe it or not but any new artistic prints (ones already printed are exempt) will have to be de-tobacco'd as well

so the Historice and euro boss will have to change thier livery rules in the EU

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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I presume you'll still be able to buy ciggie decals separately if you want to ensure your models look historically accurate.

Most European countries have had a similar ban on Nazi Swastikas for many years. However, specialist decal manufacturers have always been able to produce Swastika sheets for modellers.

boxbush

215 posts

257 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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What a crazy situation - you can't even buy JPS fags anymore FFS, so what's the point?

Eric Mc

122,688 posts

271 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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What about old movies, TV shows, photographs and advertising - will they have to be censored too if they contain cigarette logos?

FourWheelDrift

89,386 posts

290 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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Probably have to have some sort of Euro-Tobacco warning before the show.

I think the Euro ministers are paid extra for every daft rule they introduce.

In my opinion it's not TV, racing, films or anything similar that get people (and we really mean young children) smoking it's peer pressure. Doing what others are doing. Adverts have little to do with it in my opinion, I've never smoked and don't want to and I've grown up in the environment, hell I even have Marlboro plastered over my racing helmet. And I'm not going to be covering that up as I see it not as a cigarette thing but as a racing thing, since they have looked after and helped racing drivers for many years.

anonymous-user

60 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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amusingly, if i ever did start smoking, it would almost certainly be Marlboro!

steviebee

Original Poster:

13,373 posts

261 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:

In my opinion it's not TV, racing, films or anything similar that get people (and we really mean young children) smoking it's peer pressure. Doing what others are doing.


Bang on!

When I started smoking (now given up by the way), it was exactly for this reason. the first pack I bought was JPS as that was the livery on the model Lotus 72 I had in bedroom as kid. But it wasn't the model that made me start!

So what about Marlboro Classic clothing? Is that not considered as fag advertising?

daydreamer

1,409 posts

263 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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I think that the cloathing line was a stunt to get around the advertising ban. Interesting to see how that one pans out.

steviebee

Original Poster:

13,373 posts

261 months

Tuesday 25th May 2004
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Is it true that they will be re-naming the animal "Camel" to something else too???!!