Terry Pratchett:Choosing to Die
Terry Pratchett:Choosing to Die
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Halb

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53,012 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Anyone watching this? Monday BBC2 9pm.
I met Terry last year, he had a hectic schedule even though his condition was obviously affecting him, had a nice lil chat for 20 mins or so and then he sort of nodded off mid chat, it was a long day.

I have followed his programmes he has made aboot this subject. Personally I believe in a persons right to choose, and if that person asks for help that no-one should be persecuted for it.
I look forward to this doc, more to do with the fact that TP is presenting it but also a little bit for it's subject matter and the fact that it affects the presenter in a very real way as opposed to 99% of documentaries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/2011/jun/09...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1377062/BB...

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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It sounds interesting and I'm a TP fan too. I believe the right to a dignified death is important and hope that by the time I'm at that stage of life, I'll be able to have a dignified death (assisted if need be) without any friends and family being investigated for murder.

DJRC

23,563 posts

266 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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Very very soon there will be no more PTerry books.

I will mourn that day for a genius of British literature will have died. I will happily defend his place in the Pantheon of British writing greats to all and sundry and that includes any "Intellectual Giants" who even remotely dares to suggest that James fking Joyce was ever fit to lace his boots.

ewenm

28,506 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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China Mieville put it well, sci-fi/fantasy is never going to be part of the establishment, and those that love the genre both love and hate that fact.

Halb

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53,012 posts

213 months

Thursday 9th June 2011
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ewenm said:
China Mieville put it well, sci-fi/fantasy is never going to be part of the establishment, and those that love the genre both love and hate that fact.
That is a good quote.yes Same kind of snobby attitude that if it's funny, then it's not serious.

DJRC

23,563 posts

266 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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His best stuff isnt funny though. Its searing, scathing social commentary on humanity, of its strengths and weaknesses. The early Guards books that introduce us to Sam Vimes capture a character of red hot, visceral anger that bear comparison to any great character in English literature. Vimes blazes off a page with an intensity that frankly takes Mr Darcy and whithers him to the bone.

The man is a pure out and out creative genius.

Halb

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53,012 posts

213 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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I think that is what makes it funny, holding up the mirror to our society on some of the precepts and ideas that we hold to which are slightly ridiculous when you look at them objectively.biggrin

edit, funny, but in a gut grinding way, like the thearee of the absurd. You could almost weep as you laughbiggrin

Edited by Halb on Friday 10th June 10:00

DJRC

23,563 posts

266 months

Friday 10th June 2011
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Oh I dunno, his funny bits to me are just lol funny. I still giggle just when I think about the line "Corporal Nobbs, disqualified from the human race for shoving". Thats Normal Wisdom silly humour funny and the creative genius is in the simplicity of the silly humour. I love it smile

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

213 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Reminder
it's on tonight, with a newsnight discussion afterwards.

L100NYY

36,824 posts

273 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Watching it now.

Fascinating, moving and powerful already.

selwonk

2,143 posts

255 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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How sad that is wife is not in agreement with him.

L100NYY

36,824 posts

273 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Finding this very hard viewing.

toast boy

1,242 posts

256 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Very moving. It's a difficult subject and something that if you try and put yourself in that situation is pretty challenging.

K12beano

20,854 posts

305 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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L100NYY said:
Finding this very hard viewing.
yes

"Who owns your life?"

L100NYY

36,824 posts

273 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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K12beano said:
L100NYY said:
Finding this very hard viewing.
yes

"Who owns your life?"
The very quote I was about to post.

mattnunn

14,041 posts

191 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Seems to me he is more than capable of topping himself if he really wants to, in a private and dignified way, and it seems that a lot of people who go to Dignitas are also capable, but they are emotionally unable, meaning they do not wish to die, they wish to be killed.

That's gruesome.


Bebee

4,724 posts

255 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Only on an industrial estate!

Bebee

4,724 posts

255 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Would he have changed his mind if the camera's weren’t there?

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I work in a hopice.
I see people wasting away in beds waiting to die.

Trust me, dignitas etc is a good thing adminsitered properly.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I suppose if a rational person can say, "I have thought about the situation, I have considered all of my options and the implications of them and I have decided that I would like to die" then why shouldn't they?