Honda's Swindon factory on two-day week until August
Honda's Swindon factory on two-day week until August
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CzechItOut

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2,156 posts

221 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/may/20/hon...

It says the supply of electronic components, engines and brakes are taking longer than expected to return to normal.

Does anyone have any information on how the supply chain works? I presume the engine is made in Japan, but where do the components for the engine come from, are they also manufactured in Japan or do they come from other Far East countries?

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

239 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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The Civic engines are assembled in the UK now, not sure on the other models. They used to be boxed over in crates from Japan already complete. I would assume a lot of the engine components are still manufactured in Japan and obviously there are ongoing delays since the tsunami

TeamD

5,060 posts

262 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Guam said:
This is where JIT and over concentration of your supply chain in too few businesses, stuffs you strategicaally.

For decades multinationals have moved in this direction without consideration of catastrophic failure of the chain.



it will be interesting to see whether this forces a seminal shift in procurement planning in the future?
Yeah, JIT sucks. Perfect example, my local at home, they've tuned their orders to cope with the fact that I work away 5 days a week now, had a weeks holiday recently and I'd drank them out of Carling by saturday night, they had to go scrounging for some more from other pubs! biggrin

CzechItOut

Original Poster:

2,156 posts

221 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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itsnotarace said:
The Civic engines are assembled in the UK now, not sure on the other models.
Is this also done in Swindon?

arguti

1,867 posts

216 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Visited local Honda dealer and enquired re availability/lead times of the Accord- was quoted 9-12 months if that helps

cazzer

8,883 posts

278 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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TeamD said:
Guam said:
This is where JIT and over concentration of your supply chain in too few businesses, stuffs you strategicaally.

For decades multinationals have moved in this direction without consideration of catastrophic failure of the chain.



it will be interesting to see whether this forces a seminal shift in procurement planning in the future?
Yeah, JIT sucks. Perfect example, my local at home, they've tuned their orders to cope with the fact that I work away 5 days a week now, had a weeks holiday recently and I'd drank them out of Carling by saturday night, they had to go scrounging for some more from other pubs! biggrin
I knew that was you before I read the poster name smile

nelly1

5,666 posts

261 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Guam said:
This is where JIT and over concentration of your supply chain in too few businesses, stuffs you strategically.

For decades multinationals have moved in this direction without consideration of catastrophic failure of the chain.

It will be interesting to see whether this forces a seminal shift in procurement planning in the future?
Ah, but this is the magical world of Management, where all processes are foolproof, all parts are 100% checked, machines never break down and absolutely NOTHING can go wrong!

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

239 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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CzechItOut said:
Is this also done in Swindon?
Yep

TeamD

5,060 posts

262 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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cazzer said:
I knew that was you before I read the poster name smile
As you are soon to find out, beer...it's a way of life. wink

zac510

5,546 posts

236 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Guam said:
This is where JIT and over concentration of your supply chain in too few businesses, stuffs you strategicaally.

For decades multinationals have moved in this direction without consideration of catastrophic failure of the chain.



it will be interesting to see whether this forces a seminal shift in procurement planning in the future?
For decades? Shouldn't there be endless number of failure stories then? There must be a net gain in not carrying the stock that more than offsets a couple of months of decreased production.

TeamD

5,060 posts

262 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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zac510 said:
For decades? Shouldn't there be endless number of failure stories then? There must be a net gain in not carrying the stock that more than offsets a couple of months of decreased production.
Tell my customers that when a 4 hour hardware support contract results in a 2 day lead time for a chunk of RAM. I don't know how the supplier has the gall to even claim that they could meet their SLAs.

Ozone

3,112 posts

217 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Talking to the top man from Infiniti a couple of weeks ago and he was saying that the factory that makes the ECU's is in the restricred area around Fukushima so they are struggling make anything until the factory is open again.

They also lost over 400 vehicles that were washed away from the docks in the tsunami which hasn't help supply.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Does this mean the workers are only paid for 2 days work a week?, or are they on reduced pay with very long weekends?.

Megaflow

11,589 posts

255 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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itsnotarace said:
Yep
Correct. Swindon assemble the engines for all cars built there. This short working was introduced a few weeks ago. It made the headlines on Sky news and with the typical sensationalist journalism they made out to sound lke Honda were in deep trouble, workers jobs at risk, etc. When it's a Japan problem not Swindon.

As an aside Swindon used to source a lot of components in the UK. I used to work for a company that made all the front hubs, discs, rear hubs and rear wheel spindles.

Matt_N

9,044 posts

232 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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CzechItOut said:
itsnotarace said:
The Civic engines are assembled in the UK now, not sure on the other models.
Is this also done in Swindon?
Not just assembled there, they are cast there too.

They have their own foundry.

crankedup

25,764 posts

273 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
Does this mean the workers are only paid for 2 days work a week?, or are they on reduced pay with very long weekends?.
The staff are being paid as normal and will make up the time to the Company when business returns to normal.


LooneyTunes

9,475 posts

188 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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CzechItOut said:
Does anyone have any information on how the supply chain works? I presume the engine is made in Japan, but where do the components for the engine come from, are they also manufactured in Japan or do they come from other Far East countries?
The issue is that the absence of a single component - something as trivial as a resistor or capacitor - can stop a module's production line.

Quite a few components are Japanese made, others increasingly from China.

The difficulty comes that, even if you can find products that appear similar, when you factor the component testing/approval regime (PPAP) into the equation it becomes quite difficult to replace your source at short notice. In some cases these approval processes limit a multi-national vendor to supplying from a particular factory.

... and that's before you consider the challenges associated with finding a source given that all other industries will be doing the same if the production plant is out and the fact that suppliers may lack the manpower to suddenly respond to a whole raft of PPAPs. Or even that the market for certain types of components is dominated by a very small number of companies.


Liokault

2,837 posts

244 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I work for a huge supplier shipping parts into Ford Europe. We are having a huge cost saving drive as a large drop in orders is anticipated after Ford anounced shorter working weeks in several plants.



Drunk = no spell check.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

276 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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zac510 said:
There must be a net gain in not carrying the stock that more than offsets a couple of months of decreased production.
Yes, there are huge benefits from JIT.

People forget that these days a car plant doesn't just build thousands of identical cars. Each car is built to an individual specification with endless variations of engine, transmission, air con, interior trim, stereo etc etc. It would be absolutely impossible to hold stock of parts for all of the specifications. Also many bits of the car arrive as "sub-assemblies" rather than "parts" and the complete dashboard is a good example.

I was always amused by the best description of JIT gone wrong - JIT"

Just Too Late