Looking to buy Giulia Quadrifoglio (manual)

[superpippo]

I'm going to add a QF to my collection soon, only obstacle I will need a manual with low mileage, which are quite rare.
Any other manual QF owners here ?

[Lefty]

I had no idea you could get these with a manual box!

[Fessia fancier]

Were they LHD only? Or was 4WD LHD only?

[xyyman]

Fessia fancier said:

Were they LHD only? Or was 4WD LHD only?

No manuals for the UK market, only LHD manual in Europe when I looked back in 2018. There maybe manuals in RHD for other markets e.g. South Africa but I doubt it.as I was told there was a technical production reason for not having RHD manual version.

[LuckyThirteen]

It was the lack of a manual that stopped me buying one @6-7 years ago. Despite having the mother and father of all discounts on a brand new one.

[Lefty]

I was going to say, if there was a manual available I’d have been all over it.

[thegreenhell]

Euro LHD only, and only available 2016-2018, so not many about.

[username_checksout]

By all accounts the manual box wasn't anything special and you were better off with the actually-good ZF auto option anyway.

I would have like the Q4 version, but again only available in LHD.

It's early days but I'm wondering if it's possible to pop the QF engine into a 4wd 159. That would be something.

[kith]

username_checksout said:

It's early days but I'm wondering if it's possible to pop the QF engine into a 4wd 159. That would be something.

Not a chance, without a huge amount of re-building / re-engineering, as the 159 is set up for a transverse engine.

[username_checksout]

kith said:

username_checksout said:

It's early days but I'm wondering if it's possible to pop the QF engine into a 4wd 159. That would be something.

Not a chance, without a huge amount of re-building / re-engineering, as the 159 is set up for a transverse engine.

Ah bums. But with effort, experience and expense it *might* be possible?

[thegreenhell]

username_checksout said:

kith said:

username_checksout said:

It's early days but I'm wondering if it's possible to pop the QF engine into a 4wd 159. That would be something.

Not a chance, without a huge amount of re-building / re-engineering, as the 159 is set up for a transverse engine.

Ah bums. But with effort, experience and expense it *might* be possible?

It would be a lot of work. It might actually be easier to keep the Giulia's longitudinal layout, and use a Stelvio transmission if you still want 4wd.

And now you've given me the brilliant idea to make a RWD Brera QF, manual of course...

[nekrum]

username_checksout said:

kith said:

username_checksout said:

It's early days but I'm wondering if it's possible to pop the QF engine into a 4wd 159. That would be something.

Not a chance, without a huge amount of re-building / re-engineering, as the 159 is set up for a transverse engine.

Ah bums. But with effort, experience and expense it *might* be possible?

While owning a Guilia Veloce and Maserati Quatroporte I did ponder how good the Guilia would be with the Maserati V8.. bought a QF in the end but was seriously tempted.. anything is possible..

[Pereldh]

Living in a LHD country and driven a few Giulia Q's with & without the auto box, the choice for me was a no-brainer - had to be a manual. Driving the auto just felt like a computer game & the manual felt like... a normal manual!
(Been totally mislead (like you) by keyboard warriors)

I answered a similar question already here: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Managed to find a decent example in France at a similar offer to most auto's then imported to Sweden, 50k euros. Its now my summercar for holidays, sundays & occasional trackdays.

Edited by Pereldh on Monday 5th January 13:27

[username_checksout]

Pereldh said:

(Been totally mislead by keyboard warriors, just like you)

I was just repeating what numerous reviewers have said although an actual owners view is equally valid.

I have owned a QF and I was more than happy to let the 'box handle things. With that much power available so readily I wanted my hands on the wheel where they would be more useful. I recall the gear changes were rapid and slick; when pressing on you'd be putting the clutch in every half second to replicate the changes it was making.

If you want to feel some degree of involvement it does have the paddle shifts.

[thegreenhell]

Only 6 manual gears rather than the 8 in the auto, so gearshifts should be less frequent and less frenetic.

[Pereldh]

Sorry I wasnt actually pointing fingers but meant "I - like you - have been mislead"
"(Been totally mislead (like you) by keyboard warriors)"

Actually - I've only found 1 (one!) "negative" review, which really has snowballed... Its the one we've all seen by Chris Harris. But the most negative thing he said was actually only "the shift quality is a bit rubbery" and I can only put it down to british Stiff-Upper-Lip since it wasn't going to be sold in RHD. "We don't care for it anyway".
Its a weak theory but its the only one I've got!

After all, the non-british reviews doesn't mention anything negative. Rather the nice functions, like revmatch & NLS (No Lift Shift).

I think you probably need actual experience of a fun manual car to realize the point of a manual Giulia Q.
But we're getting fewer by the minute.

Edited by Pereldh on Monday 5th January 14:15

[davek_964]

Pereldh said:

I think you probably need actual experience of a fun manual car to realize the point of a manual Giulia Q.

I've had fun manual cars, and would have always chosen them over auto. In 2019, I changed cars and the replacement was only available with paddle shift - albeit with a manual gearbox. It was a big negative for me, and at that time I would absolutely have bought a conventional manual if it was possible.

Maybe it's my age, but that isn't true anymore. I've got used to paddle shift, and the one (boring) manual car I have simply seems more hassle than it's worth.
When I bought the Quad last year - even if manual was available in the UK, my preference would have been auto.

Me in 2019 would never have believed I'd prefer non-manual a few years later.

[Pereldh]

Yes it will always be down to taste.

But no-one should be fooled thinking the Giulia Q is any worse than, say, a manual Bmw E92 M3.
(which has the same ZF gearbox)

[username_checksout]

Pereldh said:

Sorry I wasnt actually pointing fingers but meant "I - like you - have been mislead"
"(Been totally mislead (like you) by keyboard warriors)"

Fair do, thanks for clarifying.

[username_checksout]

thegreenhell said:

username_checksout said:

kith said:

username_checksout said:

It's early days but I'm wondering if it's possible to pop the QF engine into a 4wd 159. That would be something.

Not a chance, without a huge amount of re-building / re-engineering, as the 159 is set up for a transverse engine.

Ah bums. But with effort, experience and expense it *might* be possible?

It would be a lot of work. It might actually be easier to keep the Giulia's longitudinal layout, and use a Stelvio transmission if you still want 4wd.

And now you've given me the brilliant idea to make a RWD Brera QF, manual of course...

I know you can get 4WD 159s so they'll already have space for a propshaft etc. You can get 4wd Guilia QFs too, only in LHD, so while the factory Aisin auto box on a 159 wouldn't last long with a QF engine, you could pop the transmission and engine from a Q4 QF in - in theory.

All I need is a written off Q4 Giulia QF, a donor Q4 auto 159, an expert mechanic and some money I don't mind throwing down the drain.