TCS on 430 CLK

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V8Cerbera

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Thursday 24th April 2008
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Stupid question number 1
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Is it possible to disable the traction control on a 98-03 series 430 CLK?

shadowninja

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Thursday 24th April 2008
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Properly disable? No. Make it 10% as efficient: just press the button by the gear stick.

Edited by shadowninja on Thursday 24th April 09:35

V8Cerbera

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Sunday 27th April 2008
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I was informed that a servo hose could be disconnected for this task, but I'm not going to go breaking servos when I don't know what else it'll take down. I'll have to make do with 10% then.

Why don't Mercedes let you turn it off entirely?

shadowninja

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Monday 28th April 2008
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Well, they do... now. The new CLKs have a magic Nintendo-style combination to switch it off completely.

Could ask this guy: http://www.prestigecarservice.co.uk/ Tell him ShadowNinja sent you. (I know him through a Mercedes forum.)

V8Cerbera

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Sunday 4th May 2008
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shadowninja said:
Well, they do... now. The new CLKs have a magic Nintendo-style combination to switch it off completely.

Could ask this guy: http://www.prestigecarservice.co.uk/ Tell him ShadowNinja sent you. (I know him through a Mercedes forum.)
Cheers, I may have to give that a go then. Don't suppose you know if there is a cost efficient or simple way of screwing more power out of the W208 4.3 do you? Not being forced induction or similar I wouldn't suppose that a remap would have a whole lot of effect?

shadowninja

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Sunday 4th May 2008
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More power? Well, those chips are limited as these cars are naturally aspirated; expect maybe 10bhp tops. Could add an air filter and a more sporty exhaust, plus a chip. Might give you 15bhp (unless you speak to someone in a McD's car park, in which case it gives you 150bhp extra hehe ). There is some gadget that you can add to the accelerator pedal that makes the response sharper, which will have a similar effect to having more power. Have a google. (I tried searching on the two UK Merc forums which is where I read about it but can't find anything!)

shadowninja

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V8Cerbera

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Monday 5th May 2008
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shadowninja said:
Could add an air filter and a more sporty exhaust, plus a chip. Might give you 15bhp (unless you speak to someone in a McD's car park, in which case it gives you 150bhp extra hehe ).
Ah Ha! I've got it, the most cost effective way of increasing horsepower for ANY car.

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Right, ive noticed a lot of magazines and stuff quoting BHP figrues against cars and thought i should take the time to explain what these are.

Basically the figure they are quoting is the most important factor about the performance of a "phat/wicked ride".

Brake horsepower and Torque are all very well, but the main figure that counts is Bar Horse Power, this is the figure that you tell your mates down the pub.


To calculate this use the following rules:

STARTING POINT
The manufacturers generally handpick an engine that they know is on the right end of tolerances for testing, this means that often its a higher figure than an average new engine actaully makes, ignore this fact and swear blind that your smoking nasty example of a now half ***ked engine makes the figure claimed, round up whenever possible, so 152bhp = 160bhp etc

BOLT ON MODS
Obviously the correct way to get more power from your smoking engine with poor valve seal and rings that are about as tight as freedy mercury's arse, the way to get more power is to ignore those facts (see "starting point") and just bolt tat onto the outside of it.
These mods can include filters/exhaust/dumpvalve etc, or even semi-internal mods like cams, we wont cover things like bearings or rings cause those arent very shiney so you wont want to replace them.
The manufacturers always state the gains that you will get from a mod, often your car wont be listed specifically with a power gain, so just pick the biggest one that is, if a skyline can pick up 22bhp from an exhaust, then so can your saxo, again dont forget the golden "always round up" rule.
The figures should all be added up, and round up again.


ITS A GOOD'UN
You need to add a proportional value based on the "its a good'un" factor of your engine, basically, as this is YOUR engine not anyone elses, its special, so the mods will all make more difference, so multiply the number up a bit to take this into account.

STICKERS / SPOILERS
Race cars have them, so you need them too, the key thing here is to NOT buy ones that apply to anything you have fitted, go for stuff that isnt even made for your car, so Greddy/HKS/Blitz is ideal for an XR2i.
Now the thing to remember with modifications to a vehicle is that they work in harmony, it all comes together as a package, exhaust will compliment head mods, filter will work well with a decat or whatever, now stickers are about attitude, and attitude is what counts out there on the street (or halfords car park).
Take the % of your car covered by stickers and spoilers and add that onto your BHP figure as an attitude adjustment (dont forget to round up!!)



WORKED EXAMPLE:
Fiesta XR2
quoted figure (use a guess if you cant find the manufacturers), 94bhp
filter (using the figure for a porche 911) - 11bhp
Exhaust (using figure for a skyline) - 22bhp
decat (never had one so you get this without doin anything, PHAT!) - 12bhp
sticker coverage = 47%
spoiler coverage = 12%
Its a good'un factor = 25%


We'll do the rounding first:
So the calcs are:
94 round up = 100
filter round up = 20
exahust round up = 30
decat round up = 20
sticker round up = 50%
spoiler round up = 20%
good'un round up = 30%

So 100 + 20 + 30 + 20 = 170
plus stickers 50% = 255
add spoiler factor 20% = 306
add good'un factor = 397.8

Final round up = 400bhp



This however is only your basic Bar Horse Power figure, make sure when you quote it you increase it inversely to the age of the girl you have with you at the time, and in direct proportion to the number of pints you have consumed.
I saw this several years ago and had to dig it out. Don't know why I didn't think of it before! lol

I think I'll just be leaving mine standard.

shadowninja

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Monday 5th May 2008
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Ohhh, I dunno. A huge HKS sticker on the bonnet could help...



You're tempted. I can tell.

V8Cerbera

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Tuesday 6th May 2008
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Shame that picture didn't work frown

I suppose I could go for a major covering with the CLK DTM livery, that would give me an extra 250 ish bar horse power I'd reckon.

shadowninja

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Tuesday 6th May 2008
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Damn. Anyway, the sprintbooster is your best option from what people are saying. I haven't fitted it to my CLK because it's easy enough to break traction as it is without added response!

V8Cerbera

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Thursday 8th May 2008
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I think a sprintbooster will be my only addition. I'm sure that will do the trick nicely.