E320 CDI or E270 CDI estate......any common problems?

[mybrainhurts]

Anything known about E320 or E270 CDI estates, 2 years old, 75000 miles?

Thinking of buying, unless it's going to burn a hole in my pocket with something routine.

Do they have cambelts or chains..?

[daveenty]

Same with any MB really, the newer the better, full dealer history and as many toys as possible

30 year warranty on bodywork now, so no problems there.

Know a couple of folk with the 270 and they highly recommend them.

All mercs come with Duplex chains, so no worries there.

A forum to browse through : http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/index.php?

Some very knowledgeable people there.

[mybrainhurts]

Ta muchly...

Those variable service intervals bother me. The one I looked at was stamped up by the dealer, but doesn't appear to have had a fuel filter change in 75k miles/two years.

Don't like the idea of not knowing when the service light's going to tell me I suddenly need to change the oil at £250 a throw...or worse!

[Egbert Nobacon]

Some early ones had electrical problems and issues with the SBC braking systems (but should have been resolved under warranty)

Consensus is that 53 plate and newer are much better and Merc also dropped the SBC system around then.

Facelift versions have much improved the quality of interiors.

Lots of big mileage ones (100K plus) going through auctions at the moment at seemingly affordable prices.

Watch out for ex Police silver E320 cdi estates though, Avon and Somerset use them as traffic cars on the M5 etc

Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Monday 16th July 21:25

[mybrainhurts]

Thanks....

[bloodyniceben]

Egbert Nobacon said:

Some early ones had electrical problems and issues with the SBS braking systems (but should have been resolved under warranty)

Consensus is that 53 plate and newer are much better and Merc also dropped the SBS system around then.

Facelift versions have much improved the quality of interiors.

Lots of big mileage ones (100K plus) going through auctions at the moment at seemingly affordable prices.

Watch out for ex Police silver E320 cdi estates though, Avon and Somerset use them as traffic cars on the M5 etc

Its the SBC braking system, and merc used it up util the 211 facelift late last year when they changed to ABR.

Apart from the 20 odd recalls the 211 has had, there shouldnt be any problems now.

Ben

[mybrainhurts]

Thanks...

[Vixpy1]

like all modern mercs, they rust.

Engines are a corker though

[mybrainhurts]

Thought it was only the previous shape that rusts...?

[Vixpy1]

mybrainhurts said:

Thought it was only the previous shape that rusts...?

No, the new ones rust as well, although they are covered by a better warranty.

[mybrainhurts]

The old one has a ten year bodywork warranty, old boy...

[Vixpy1]

mybrainhurts said:

The old one has a ten year bodywork warranty, old boy...

Not all of them, the pre 98 ones have a different warrenty that does not cover against rust for as long, as i found out to my cost

[mybrainhurts]

Ouch...

[Egbert Nobacon]

bloodyniceben said:

Egbert Nobacon said:

Some early ones had electrical problems and issues with the SBS braking systems (but should have been resolved under warranty)

Consensus is that 53 plate and newer are much better and Merc also dropped the SBS system around then.

Facelift versions have much improved the quality of interiors.

Lots of big mileage ones (100K plus) going through auctions at the moment at seemingly affordable prices.

Watch out for ex Police silver E320 cdi estates though, Avon and Somerset use them as traffic cars on the M5 etc

Its the SBC braking system, and merc used it up util the 211 facelift late last year when they changed to ABR.

Apart from the 20 odd recalls the 211 has had, there shouldnt be any problems now.

Ben

Ben

The MBOC are saying that Merc has now covered the SBC pump with a 10 year warranty - is that correct ?

Also I have been told that a brake fluid change on an SBC equipped E class requires 4 hours labour - is that right ?

Thanks

[bloodyniceben]

Egbert Nobacon said:

bloodyniceben said:

Egbert Nobacon said:

Some early ones had electrical problems and issues with the SBS braking systems (but should have been resolved under warranty)

Consensus is that 53 plate and newer are much better and Merc also dropped the SBS system around then.

Facelift versions have much improved the quality of interiors.

Lots of big mileage ones (100K plus) going through auctions at the moment at seemingly affordable prices.

Watch out for ex Police silver E320 cdi estates though, Avon and Somerset use them as traffic cars on the M5 etc

Its the SBC braking system, and merc used it up util the 211 facelift late last year when they changed to ABR.

Apart from the 20 odd recalls the 211 has had, there shouldnt be any problems now.

Ben

Ben

The MBOC are saying that Merc has now covered the SBC pump with a 10 year warranty - is that correct ?

Also I have been told that a brake fluid change on an SBC equipped E class requires 4 hours labour - is that right ?

Thanks

Merc have had so much trouble with the SBC system thet they may well hve given it a ten year warranty as its so problematic.

I think that whoever told you its 4 hours for a brake fluid change is messing you about. You have to bleed the brakes with the diagnostic equipment plugged in as pushing the brake pedal doesnt pump fluid around the system as such, it is a bit of a long winded way of doing things but you can get it done in half hour if it goes okay.

Ben

[Egbert Nobacon]

bloodyniceben said:

Egbert Nobacon said:

bloodyniceben said:

Egbert Nobacon said:

Some early ones had electrical problems and issues with the SBS braking systems (but should have been resolved under warranty)

Consensus is that 53 plate and newer are much better and Merc also dropped the SBS system around then.

Facelift versions have much improved the quality of interiors.

Lots of big mileage ones (100K plus) going through auctions at the moment at seemingly affordable prices.

Watch out for ex Police silver E320 cdi estates though, Avon and Somerset use them as traffic cars on the M5 etc

Its the SBC braking system, and merc used it up util the 211 facelift late last year when they changed to ABR.

Apart from the 20 odd recalls the 211 has had, there shouldnt be any problems now.

Ben

Ben

The MBOC are saying that Merc has now covered the SBC pump with a 10 year warranty - is that correct ?

Also I have been told that a brake fluid change on an SBC equipped E class requires 4 hours labour - is that right ?

Thanks

Merc have had so much trouble with the SBC system thet they may well hve given it a ten year warranty as its so problematic.

I think that whoever told you its 4 hours for a brake fluid change is messing you about. You have to bleed the brakes with the diagnostic equipment plugged in as pushing the brake pedal doesnt pump fluid around the system as such, it is a bit of a long winded way of doing things but you can get it done in half hour if it goes okay.

Ben

Thanks Ben

[silverback mike]

Egbert Nobacon said:

Some early ones had electrical problems and issues with the SBC braking systems (but should have been resolved under warranty)

Consensus is that 53 plate and newer are much better and Merc also dropped the SBC system around then.

Facelift versions have much improved the quality of interiors.

Lots of big mileage ones (100K plus) going through auctions at the moment at seemingly affordable prices.

Watch out for ex Police silver E320 cdi estates though, Avon and Somerset use them as traffic cars on the M5 etc

Edited by Egbert Nobacon on Monday 16th July 21:25

Our patrol cars are white, but have two unmarked silver ones. They would be a marvellous buy as they are used as protection cars rather than for normal duties