driving a legend: c63
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recently I drove a c63 w204, the legend. for me it was a first.
I would like to point out that there was no engine light or anything else on the dashboard.
the positive points: the sound of the exhaust was incredible, there were mufflers and the modified catalyst and it sounded incredible. Then I was surprised by the nice steering feel and intuitive driving position.
then the engine, a superb response from the accelerator at all speeds and smooth and lots of torque everywhere especially after 4000/5000rpm where it really pulls, nice.
the brakes are good too and the heavy car is well protected.
the gearbox is incredibly slow in C and S but smooth for relaxed driving but I appreciated the connection of the manual mode, certainly slow, allowing you to really choose the desired gear ratio.
overall it's a very good car but, because there is one.
the c63 is renowned for being a monster of torque and power and of course it feels faster than an m3 v8 or an rs4 but despite everything I find that it doesn't give much "push" into the seat, obviously more in passenger but as a driver seat this is not shocking just keep gooing. and above all it seems much slower than the numbers on the speedo. Am I the only one who experienced this? maybe I expected too much
I would like to point out that there was no engine light or anything else on the dashboard.
the positive points: the sound of the exhaust was incredible, there were mufflers and the modified catalyst and it sounded incredible. Then I was surprised by the nice steering feel and intuitive driving position.
then the engine, a superb response from the accelerator at all speeds and smooth and lots of torque everywhere especially after 4000/5000rpm where it really pulls, nice.
the brakes are good too and the heavy car is well protected.
the gearbox is incredibly slow in C and S but smooth for relaxed driving but I appreciated the connection of the manual mode, certainly slow, allowing you to really choose the desired gear ratio.
overall it's a very good car but, because there is one.
the c63 is renowned for being a monster of torque and power and of course it feels faster than an m3 v8 or an rs4 but despite everything I find that it doesn't give much "push" into the seat, obviously more in passenger but as a driver seat this is not shocking just keep gooing. and above all it seems much slower than the numbers on the speedo. Am I the only one who experienced this? maybe I expected too much
Back in 2007 these where brilliant from my experience.
My father collected a C350 and C63 W204 Saloon at the same time, one was to be used as his commuter the other his fun (and fits the grand kids) he had more trouble with the C350 at first (warranty well used) than the C63. Back in 2007 though, that C63 was something else, just hearing it rumbling up my drive when he came to visit was special. After a couple of years with it it was replaced with a Jag XFR again an amazing car but not a patch or an event as the C63. After all that, my dad still has the C350, it still has very little mileage for its age (77k) but besides a rear subframe out of warranty, it turned into a good car and still turns into a nice event for him to collect his papers with that V6 come the weekend.
I tried a C63s avant (2015) before buying my B8 RS4, and the later model C63 wasn't a patch on the model before to me, but I still preferred the RS4, whilst not in noise or driving dynamics it was a much easier car to live with and cart life about in!
My father collected a C350 and C63 W204 Saloon at the same time, one was to be used as his commuter the other his fun (and fits the grand kids) he had more trouble with the C350 at first (warranty well used) than the C63. Back in 2007 though, that C63 was something else, just hearing it rumbling up my drive when he came to visit was special. After a couple of years with it it was replaced with a Jag XFR again an amazing car but not a patch or an event as the C63. After all that, my dad still has the C350, it still has very little mileage for its age (77k) but besides a rear subframe out of warranty, it turned into a good car and still turns into a nice event for him to collect his papers with that V6 come the weekend.
I tried a C63s avant (2015) before buying my B8 RS4, and the later model C63 wasn't a patch on the model before to me, but I still preferred the RS4, whilst not in noise or driving dynamics it was a much easier car to live with and cart life about in!
Murci.sv said:
recently I drove a c63 w204, the legend. for me it was a first.
I would like to point out that there was no engine light or anything else on the dashboard.
the positive points: the sound of the exhaust was incredible, there were mufflers and the modified catalyst and it sounded incredible. Then I was surprised by the nice steering feel and intuitive driving position.
then the engine, a superb response from the accelerator at all speeds and smooth and lots of torque everywhere especially after 4000/5000rpm where it really pulls, nice.
the brakes are good too and the heavy car is well protected.
the gearbox is incredibly slow in C and S but smooth for relaxed driving but I appreciated the connection of the manual mode, certainly slow, allowing you to really choose the desired gear ratio.
overall it's a very good car but, because there is one.
the c63 is renowned for being a monster of torque and power and of course it feels faster than an m3 v8 or an rs4 but despite everything I find that it doesn't give much "push" into the seat, obviously more in passenger but as a driver seat this is not shocking just keep gooing. and above all it seems much slower than the numbers on the speedo. Am I the only one who experienced this? maybe I expected too much
Brilliant cars. One of those cars where the flaws make the character. I would like to point out that there was no engine light or anything else on the dashboard.
the positive points: the sound of the exhaust was incredible, there were mufflers and the modified catalyst and it sounded incredible. Then I was surprised by the nice steering feel and intuitive driving position.
then the engine, a superb response from the accelerator at all speeds and smooth and lots of torque everywhere especially after 4000/5000rpm where it really pulls, nice.
the brakes are good too and the heavy car is well protected.
the gearbox is incredibly slow in C and S but smooth for relaxed driving but I appreciated the connection of the manual mode, certainly slow, allowing you to really choose the desired gear ratio.
overall it's a very good car but, because there is one.
the c63 is renowned for being a monster of torque and power and of course it feels faster than an m3 v8 or an rs4 but despite everything I find that it doesn't give much "push" into the seat, obviously more in passenger but as a driver seat this is not shocking just keep gooing. and above all it seems much slower than the numbers on the speedo. Am I the only one who experienced this? maybe I expected too much
You won't get that diesel punch because there's no turbo. It means it has that old school feel as you run high rpm and it's also why it sounds so good.
yes the sound is incredible and the car accelerates really hard. I've had and driven a less powerful turbo car that seemed more punchy. the throttle response is very pleasant on the c63. different pleasures but even if I knew very well that there is no turbo etc, it was not the monster that was described to me, the power is strong but at the same time very refined and super progressive
HocusPocus said:
Start up and 5krpm+@WOT is addictive aural porn 
yes, on that I can't contradict you, objectively speaking, the c63 has the best engine I've known. sound, response and torque everywhere. but being used to the turbo these days if it makes me (strange) the car pulls on your arms, you even feel it in the head like fairground rides. but not really pushed in the seat feeling. it pushes you back at first when you put your foot down with this throttle response and after that it's very smooth all the rev rangeMurci.sv said:
HocusPocus said:
Start up and 5krpm+@WOT is addictive aural porn
yes, on that I can't contradict you, objectively speaking, the c63 has the best engine I've known. sound, response and torque everywhere. but being used to the turbo these days if it makes me (strange) the car pulls on your arms, you even feel it in the head like fairground rides. but not really pushed in the seat feeling. it pushes you back at first when you put your foot down with this throttle response and after that it's very smooth all the rev rangeI drove one back to back with my old F80 M3, it felt subdued didn't feel that quick and everything was a bit slow, it was comfortable though with a lovely relaxed gate about it, the F80 M3 felt like a rabid nutter compared, in every dept handling/control weights, ride, sharpness, engine response, gearbox the lot it was leagues above.
The engine in the standard ones is in a very low state of tune and it shows, lovely car for mooching around though but felt very GT cruiser which is still appealing.
Basically it's realistic, the car has torque and power but it's very heavy. Despite the fact that it's an NA and every NA I've driven feels slower than the numbers, the myth of the C63 troubled me. A good number of people and reviews write this car as an absolute beast, I even expected it to push in the seat more than my turbo car, this was not the case. She was special in a way I didn't expect. contrary to the comment above I found that there was a nice crescendo of power and that it really got there after 4500/5000 rpm. he started again instantly at all speeds with eagerness, but not a massive
Shove, rather reactivity and keep going
obviously he didn't seem empty of a torque unlike many NAs. It's strong but in a smooth way if that makes sense.
Shove, rather reactivity and keep going
obviously he didn't seem empty of a torque unlike many NAs. It's strong but in a smooth way if that makes sense.
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