Mercedes first to sell Level 3 self-driving vehicles in Cali
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https://www.engadget.com/mercedes-becomes-the-firs...
An interesting development that I couldn't find a thread on elsewhere.
An interesting development that I couldn't find a thread on elsewhere.
Article said:
Drive Pilot will allow Mercedes-Benz drivers to takes their eyes off the road and hands off the wheel, then do other non-driving activities like watching videos and texting. If the rules for use are followed, Mercedes (and not the driver) will be legally responsible for any accident that happens.
Nomme de Plum said:
Very strict limitations to its use.
In California.
In heavy traffic and under 40mph.
Mercedes takes liability in the event of an accident.
Step the right direction though.
Very strict limitations, but it is a massive step forward. It's broken down the door to the next stage in automated driving.In California.
In heavy traffic and under 40mph.
Mercedes takes liability in the event of an accident.
Step the right direction though.
youngsyr said:
Very strict limitations, but it is a massive step forward. It's broken down the door to the next stage in automated driving.
Quite brave of Mercedes. Expect lots of flack when an accident inevitably occurs irrespective of responsibility.Realistically it will be several decades before EVs become sufficiently prevalent to really make a big difference. Be great if our motorways could be made to flow without constant stop start.
Maybe we will see it here in a decade.
Dogwatch said:
kambites said:
Automation has nothing to do with electrification except for them coincidentally happening at roughly the same time.
Adding a few more sensors and another processor to a computer on wheels. Not a problem.Will differ per legal system but say you make a mistake driving and kill someone…you could end up in prison depending on the circumstances.
If a company takes liability it’s clear from a financial side but I wonder if there is any risk of prison for a staff member or leader? Wonder how they will protect themselves in that instance
If a company takes liability it’s clear from a financial side but I wonder if there is any risk of prison for a staff member or leader? Wonder how they will protect themselves in that instance
The automated system isn't going to drive like a bellend though. It won't recklessly or willfully murder someone.
Highly unlikely to be racing off the lights.
All journeys recorded and the logic and reason it makes decisions well-defined with some sort of safety factor.
If that is approved for use how could the operator be held liable.
More than likely these automated cars will dither about like an old lady in the first iteration.
Highly unlikely to be racing off the lights.
All journeys recorded and the logic and reason it makes decisions well-defined with some sort of safety factor.
If that is approved for use how could the operator be held liable.
More than likely these automated cars will dither about like an old lady in the first iteration.
Edited by Glade on Sunday 11th June 09:04
Glade said:
The automated system isn't going to drive like a bellend though. It won't recklessly or willfully murder someone.
Highly unlikely to be racing off the lights.
And this brings about a problem that I think is very under-examined: how humans will react to knowing that an automated car will do everything it can to avoid hitting them.Highly unlikely to be racing off the lights.
It's pretty obvious to me that making high streets etc safer by having lower speed limits/cobbles/more pedestrian crossings results in people making riskier decisions.
People wouldn't dream of trying to beat a car across a motorway, but it is routine on my local high street now it has cobblestone sections and people are driving at 20 mph or less, even though there are 4 traffic light controlled pedestrian crossings in less than a mile. I've seen people run across the road in between a gap with a pedestrian crossing 15 metres away.
I suspect once self-driving cars are common place, some numpties won't think twice about walking out in front of one, knowing that it will stop.
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