disappointed with the c63 6.2

disappointed with the c63 6.2

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Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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people have been disappointed driving a c63 w204 na? in the sense that yes the noise is amazing, the steering gives a good feeling etc but the power seems so linear even though it's fast and despite the high torque, during pick ups in the first three gears it doesn't push you back into your seat like can you imagine it?

Doofus

28,469 posts

180 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Turbinox said:
people have been disappointed driving a c63 w204 na? in the sense that yes the noise is amazing, the steering gives a good feeling etc but the power seems so linear even though it's fast and despite the high torque, during pick ups in the first three gears it doesn't push you back into your seat like can you imagine it?
I sold mine because of the noise. I felt like a proper bellend driving it.

Apart from shouting, it didn't do anything particularly noteworthy.

There's a reason almost all of them have 4D numberplates.

ZX10R NIN

28,382 posts

132 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Love my 6.2 it's a weapon, it's an N/A they don't tend to push you back in the seat but should you remap one you'll finally get full throttle & a better throttle to boot.

But they're not for everyone, my other half still misses her C63.

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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the noise is really good but I understand that it constantly bothers you. that said, I did not find the sound well above other v8, 6.4 srt and corvette zo6, Maserati granturismo 4.7 sound very good too etc.

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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[quote=ZX10R NIN]Love my 6.2 it's a weapon, it's an N/A they don't tend to push you back.

but why doesn't he? yes it is n/a but there is about 400 lb/ft in the stock engine and it picks up very well especially from mid revs the torque is instantaneous. maybe it's too heavy? but the speed increases fast, by no means is it a slow car

mattuk89

502 posts

145 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Mine never “felt” that fast unless you looked at the speedo, my f31 335d felt like it pushed me back into my seat more even though they have very similar torque figures maybe even exactly the same I can’t remember..

Don’t get me wrong there was a few moments when driving I thought fk this is a quick car, but I was left a bit underwhelmed as it was my first 400+bhp car.

I drove a pre facelift before eventually buying a facelift and that felt a lot more raw, I remember on the test drive the bloke told me to boot it from the lights and it made my head go all funny like motion sickness.

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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mattuk89 said:
Mine never “felt” that fast unless you looked at the speedo, my f31 335d felt like it pushed me back into my seat more even though they have very similar torque figures maybe even exactly the same I can’t remember..

Don’t get me wrong there was a few moments when driving I thought fk this is a quick car, but I was left a bit underwhelmed as it was my first 400+bhp car.

I drove a pre facelift before eventually buying a facelift and that felt a lot more raw, I remember on the test drive the bloke told me to boot it from the lights and it made my head go all funny like motion sickness.
does the 35d push you back more in the seat than the pre facelift only or the facelift too?
maybe despite the similar torque is the "turbo" feeling that gives the impression of higher shove.



HocusPocus

1,126 posts

108 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Love the sound on start up. Car is fast enough...well I could touch 130mph (legally) and slow again on the way to my office without troubling the safety systems. Engine whine on WOT above 5000rpm is dramatic. Right road and conditions needed though. Mine is a keeper.

mattuk89

502 posts

145 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Turbinox said:
does the 35d push you back more in the seat than the pre facelift only or the facelift too?
maybe despite the similar torque is the "turbo" feeling that gives the impression of higher shove.
I ain’t going to lie mate I can’t really remember. I had my 35d in 2018, test drove the pre in 2019 and bought mine 2020, don’t get me wrong though, the c63 would wipe the floor with the 35d

popeyewhite

21,369 posts

127 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Turbinox said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Love my 6.2 it's a weapon, it's an N/A they don't tend to push you back.
but why doesn't he? yes it is n/a but there is about 400 lb/ft in the stock engine and it picks up very well especially from mid revs the torque is instantaneous. maybe it's too heavy? but the speed increases fast, by no means is it a slow car
400 lbft in a car that size isn't much. My tuned Polo Gti had 390, and that really did pull. You need more torque. If you want serious thrust then even 500 lbft is going to be only just OK. My advice would be buy a later turbocharged model and tune it.

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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mattuk89 said:
Turbinox said:
does the 35d push you back more in the seat than the pre facelift only or the facelift too?
maybe despite the similar torque is the "turbo" feeling that gives the impression of higher shove.
I ain’t going to lie mate I can’t really remember. I had my 35d in 2018, test drove the pre in 2019 and bought mine 2020, don’t get me wrong though, the c63 would wipe the floor with the 35d
yes for performance no doubts...
I'm just talking about feelings

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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popeyewhite said:
Turbinox said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Love my 6.2 it's a weapon, it's an N/A they don't tend to push you back.
but why doesn't he? yes it is n/a but there is about 400 lb/ft in the stock engine and it picks up very well especially from mid revs the torque is instantaneous. maybe it's too heavy? but the speed increases fast, by no means is it a slow car
400 lbft in a car that size isn't much. My tuned Polo Gti had 390, and that really did pull. You need more torque. If you want serious thrust then even 500 lbft is going to be only just OK. My advice would be buy a later turbocharged model and tune it.
yes the merc is heavy very heavy.
it's amazing for this same car many say it doesn't push in the seat finally less than a 35d or 30d tuned etc for others it finds there's still a good shove and its feels fast .

I've known pretty heavy turbo cars with less than 400 lbs/ft and she gave you a big kick in the back

MickyveloceClassic

425 posts

66 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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Whilst in no way disappointed in the performance of my 2013 C63, nor the steering or anything else dynamically, I was quite relieved to sell it on.

The car was uncomfortably stiff over my rural local roads, and the wheels have a propensity to crack.

The image was the single worst thing for me; far too many men of all ages with deep-seated inferiority complexes saw the car as a threat to their pitiful existence. It all got a bit stressful, and spoiled the long-awaited ownership experience.

I’d have a later E63 in a heartbeat- they’re just less shouty.

popeyewhite

21,369 posts

127 months

Monday 17th April 2023
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MickyveloceClassic said:
I’d have a later E63 in a heartbeat- they’re just less shouty.
...and have more torque. I've owned two. An NA E63 and a tt E63s. The tt was wickedly fast at around 700 bhp, but the NA was the better car.

tril

377 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I found the biggest turnoff of the 204 is the gearbox being total bks.

leef44

4,766 posts

160 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Turbinox said:
popeyewhite said:
Turbinox said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Love my 6.2 it's a weapon, it's an N/A they don't tend to push you back.
but why doesn't he? yes it is n/a but there is about 400 lb/ft in the stock engine and it picks up very well especially from mid revs the torque is instantaneous. maybe it's too heavy? but the speed increases fast, by no means is it a slow car
400 lbft in a car that size isn't much. My tuned Polo Gti had 390, and that really did pull. You need more torque. If you want serious thrust then even 500 lbft is going to be only just OK. My advice would be buy a later turbocharged model and tune it.
yes the merc is heavy very heavy.
it's amazing for this same car many say it doesn't push in the seat finally less than a 35d or 30d tuned etc for others it finds there's still a good shove and its feels fast .

I've known pretty heavy turbo cars with less than 400 lbs/ft and she gave you a big kick in the back
Well I'm surprised to learn this. I find the torque in the SLK55 does give a noticeable push back in the seat when full throttle. Even though it has less power and torque than the C63.

I wonder whether this is due to the smaller size, sitting further back (closer to the drive wheels). It's not that much lighter than a C63.

KPB1973

929 posts

106 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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I found driving a PP car a 'never meet your heroes' moment.

The gearbox felt out of synch with the engine's characteristics, it didn't feel that punchy rolling on/off the throttle and the whole car felt quite mundane, bar the noise.

I tried a E92 M3 Comp DCT later that day and it felt a more much exciting, purposeful car despite the lower torque/HP.

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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[quote=KPB1973]I found driving a PP car a 'never meet your heroes' moment.

it didn't feel that punchy rolling on/off the throttle and the whole car felt quite mundane, bar the noise.

you were expecting a bigger punch to the back from the 6.2

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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Well I'm surprised to learn this. I find the torque in the SLK55 does give a noticeable push back in the seat when full throttle. Even though it has less power and torque than the C63.

I wonder whether this is due to the smaller size, sitting further back (closer to the drive wheels). It's not that much lighter than a C63.
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maybe it all depends on what you expect in the end, I don't know the slk55 amg but in terms of torque and real power it is in another league. maybe you will find a significant recoil in your slk and even in the 63 amg. one will find that there is a lot of punch and the other not so much... opinions are divided into two categories for the same car somewhere everyone must be right in their own way

Turbinox

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73 posts

20 months

Tuesday 18th April 2023
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it's the same for example an m3 e36 or m5 e39 some talk about it like woooo they feel fast and push you back in the seat! for others it just doesn't feel fast the acceleration is so linear you don't feel it, my 330d remap gives way more shove etc and that's surely real

do you have to meet your heroes?