Thinking of buying a S63 convertible, pros and Cons

Thinking of buying a S63 convertible, pros and Cons

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snatchbox

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168 posts

173 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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Thinking of selling my Lexus LC500 V8 and getting Merc S63 Convertible. I would get a LC500 convertible but even 2nd hand they are £105,000
Test drove 2 S63's 2017. Amazing car

swanseaboydan

1,770 posts

170 months

Sunday 17th July 2022
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I love them but they seem a bit large for me - they have to be the top car for comfortable top down cruising though.
Think it would be hard to park in my local supermarket car park without it getting scratched - did they feel large when you were behind the wheel ?

snatchbox

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168 posts

173 months

Wednesday 20th July 2022
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swanseaboydan said:
I love them but they seem a bit large for me - they have to be the top car for comfortable top down cruising though.
Think it would be hard to park in my local supermarket car park without it getting scratched - did they feel large when you were behind the wheel ?
didnt feel that large but maybe on single lane twisty road it will. Def feels larger than my Lexus LC500 but not as large as Bentley GTC I owned a few years ago
I always try to park in empty section of car park, but there is always someone who wants to park next to me

Zanderman

1,107 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I am looking at a bunch of options for my new car and the S63 coupe is definitely on the list. There really aren’t that many around and I want to the facelift 2018+ version which makes the available pool of cars even smaller.

I need something that can much the miles in comfort and still has some excitement and noise. There aren’t many really exciting GT sporty cars to chose from that I actually like but the S63 is just beautiful and is a superb car. Also a lot less than the Bentley Continental!

swanseaboydan

1,770 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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I took a c63 cab for a test today - it was lovely - punchy - but I don’t think I could get that comfy in it on a long drive - maybe that is where an S 63 cab fits in

Exoticlover

284 posts

28 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Why would you want one over a Conti GT?

Zanderman

1,107 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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The only thing I don’t like about them is that the rest of the world get the 4matic version and we only get rwd, seems like a very odd choice considering our climate.

I had the last 2 versions of the C63 and the S63 is a lot more comfortable and better tech etc. might not be as much fun to drive though ?

Zanderman

1,107 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Exoticlover said:
Why would you want one over a Conti GT?
£50k price difference ? (Based on 2018 versions of each) The Bentley is a nicer car with more prestige etc but not sure it’s £50k nicer…..

swanseaboydan

1,770 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Try a California T or portofino too - the magnaride suspension is really comfy - worth trying to compare if you want a nice cruiser

Aventador 700

2,476 posts

28 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Exoticlover said:
Why would you want one over a Conti GT?
One good reason, the S is better, I really wanted to like the Conti but the ride and the seats were better in the S.

Ended up with one of the last S63 cabriolets, its just SO good (though you pay for it) and 4wd if you want to skiing…

Carplay on later cars, oled rear lights which are very cool and the 4.0tt is better than the old 5.5 v8 (which we had before)

Rear seats only for sub 10 year olds really, adults will fit but not for long journeys & its better than the conti in this regard to.

C63 or E63 are not even close.

Venisonpie

3,650 posts

89 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Aventador 700 said:
One good reason, the S is better, I really wanted to like the Conti but the ride and the seats were better in the S.

Ended up with one of the last S63 cabriolets, its just SO good (though you pay for it) and 4wd if you want to skiing…

Carplay on later cars, oled rear lights which are very cool and the 4.0tt is better than the old 5.5 v8 (which we had before)

Rear seats only for sub 10 year olds really, adults will fit but not for long journeys & its better than the conti in this regard to.

C63 or E63 are not even close.
Interesting comment regarding the smaller engine, are they similar in outputs?

Aventador 700

2,476 posts

28 months

Thursday 21st July 2022
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Venisonpie said:
Aventador 700 said:
One good reason, the S is better, I really wanted to like the Conti but the ride and the seats were better in the S.

Ended up with one of the last S63 cabriolets, its just SO good (though you pay for it) and 4wd if you want to skiing…

Carplay on later cars, oled rear lights which are very cool and the 4.0tt is better than the old 5.5 v8 (which we had before)

Rear seats only for sub 10 year olds really, adults will fit but not for long journeys & its better than the conti in this regard to.

C63 or E63 are not even close.
Interesting comment regarding the smaller engine, are they similar in outputs?
Not much in it 577 vs 602, torque the same but a little further up the range in the 4.0, the unit is just much smoother and more responsive, mated with the 9g transmission rather than the 7g in the 5.5, it just works better, overall about 8mpg better to (if you’re into that sort of thing)

Personally think a well specced & mapped 500 is as good a car as the 63 though (amg contour seats an absolute must) as you hardly ever use the power (maybe if its an only car you might use it more)

It has a track mode which makes me laugh and all the race tracks of europe in its memory should you so desire hehe

Zanderman

1,107 posts

219 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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There really are only a handful of these available (no cabs at all for the facelift) so I have been looking at a this one, what do we think in terms of spec etc?

Looks to be fair well spec’d and looks fairly mean/aggressive. They mostly seem to be in black which is why this one stood out to me.

The other thing is it doesn’t have any MB warranty, how much of an issue is that? I have no experience of the dealer, seem legit but like I have never bought an expensive car outside of the main dealer network, just makes me feel a little safer for a big purchase.

Cheers!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204054...

Aventador 700

2,476 posts

28 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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Zanderman said:
There really are only a handful of these available (no cabs at all for the facelift) so I have been looking at a this one, what do we think in terms of spec etc?

Looks to be fair well spec’d and looks fairly mean/aggressive. They mostly seem to be in black which is why this one stood out to me.

The other thing is it doesn’t have any MB warranty, how much of an issue is that? I have no experience of the dealer, seem legit but like I have never bought an expensive car outside of the main dealer network, just makes me feel a little safer for a big purchase.

Cheers!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204054...
If i were buying again i do t think i’d bother with the warranty outside the std. 3 mth you get, we have 2 of the AMG 4.0tt units, the S63 (18 mths owned) GTR (30 mths owned) and neither have had a single warranty claim despite the gtr being tracked hard and the S covering 20k miles, it seems they are pretty bullet proof and there are pretty much zero reports of problems with the 4.0tt, 7g, 9g & the dct gearboxes are pretty much the same (couple of early dct failures but this was linked to lb torque limits being exceeded with mapping of engines)

Burmester is a must (which it has) check if its the top end 3d, very cool if it is but not necessary (very good system vs c, e class systems)

Weirdly, a thing i thought was a gimmick, nightvision, if you drive late at night on country roads, its b a brilliant safety feature.

Other than that, the spec looks good but tbh, with the AMG version you pretty much get everything, most options were pretty much cosmetic or ‘nice to haves’ rather than essential.

One question, why AirScarf on a coupe??

Much prefer the panamera grille on later models but you can get a £600 after market one that looks spot on if that was steering you..

Honestly, try the later 500 tt cabrio with contour seats if you can find one, worth comparing..

Here you on black, we couldnt find the colour we wanted with the must have beige/cream interior we definitely wanted, ended up with black and had it pro wrapped in bronze metallic, amazing quality of work and a 5 year guarantee, 18mths in and it sits outside mostly and it still looks new, worth mentioning smile

Venisonpie

3,650 posts

89 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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As a side note, unless you need the extra space is there a reason to buy an S coupe/convertible over an SL? I'm looking at the latter but am curious about the S.

Aventador 700

2,476 posts

28 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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SL is a good shout if you don’t need the space, we’d have gone this way were it not for euro trips with the dogs, other advantages of the S is the nicer interior (subjective I guess) & later engine? Not sure if sl63 came with the 4.0 at any point?

You also get folding hardtop with SL if you’re talking older model, think seats are on a par with S class.

SL a Better steer? not sure, not zero scuttle shake in S but near as damn it, GTR has zero scuttle shake so I’d imagine latest SL would be good based on that, older model SL I’ve not driven, had the SL55 and that was a lovely thing but unreliable.

Would seriously consider latest SL as a replacement for the GRR roadster we have, love the looks and a merc soft top is no compromises vs bmw efforts..

Incidentally, we just came back from hols and had an 840 cabriolet whilst there for 2 weeks and this is meant to be BMWs competition to the S class cabrio, what a joke, I know the 840 is not the top draw car from them but the stuff that’s not effected by this? struggled to be 70% of what the merc is.

Bentley was comparable on quality but a bit to shouty about the fact that it’s a ‘Bentley’ too try hard.

You know how a Range Rover does all occasions? that’s how the S feels, a very comfortable ownership thing, it’s really won me over tbh, as has the GTR, personally think AMG are at a peak in their history right now.

Edited by Aventador 700 on Saturday 23 July 09:45

TarquinMX5

2,063 posts

87 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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SL63 wasn't fitted with 4.0, it retained the 5.5. I'm still undecided which of those two engines I prefer, so I'd say both are 'adequate'.

Venisonpie

3,650 posts

89 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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Aventador 700 said:
SL is a good shout if you don’t need the space, we’d have gone this way were it not for euro trips with the dogs, other advantages of the S is the nicer interior (subjective I guess) & later engine? Not sure if sl63 came with the 4.0 at any point?

You also get folding hardtop with SL if you’re talking older model, think seats are on a par with S class.

SL a Better steer? not sure, not zero scuttle shake in S but near as damn it, GTR has zero scuttle shake so I’d imagine latest SL would be good based on that, older model SL I’ve not driven, had the SL55 and that was a lovely thing but unreliable.

Would seriously consider latest SL as a replacement for the GRR roadster we have, love the looks and a merc soft top is no compromises vs bmw efforts..

Incidentally, we just came back from hols and had an 840 cabriolet whilst there for 2 weeks and this is meant to be BMWs competition to the S class cabrio, what a joke, I know the 840 is not the top draw car from them but the stuff that’s not effected by this? struggled to be 70% of what the merc is.

Bentley was comparable on quality but a bit to shouty about the fact that it’s a ‘Bentley’ too try hard.

You know how a Range Rover does all occasions? that’s how the S feels, a very comfortable ownership thing, it’s really won me over tbh, as has the GTR, personally think AMG are at a peak in their history right now.

Edited by Aventador 700 on Saturday 23 July 09:45
The R231 SL which I'm considering never had the 4.0 engine (hence question up the thread). As I get older I'm leaning towards calm wafting rather spirited driving but feel the SL would still keep itself together for the occasional urge (latest SL way beyond my budget). The S class is a curious alternative that would allow me to ferry my old folks to the pub etc. and would defo tick the waft box.

Earl of Hazzard

3,630 posts

165 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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Had the opportunity to drive an S560 cabriolet with the 4.0 V8 engine. It was blue with cream leather; wow what a lovely thing. It was plenty fast enough, so I can't imagine what an S63 would be like.

I do prefer the coupe to the cabriolet; however both are beautiful cars.

Exoticlover

284 posts

28 months

Saturday 23rd July 2022
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SEC/CL were always aimed at a special demographic.