Mercedes Driver assistance on sharp turns
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The OP is asking about the Driver Assistance Pack, which includes Route Based Speed Adaptation and Steering Pilot. No, it is not fully autonomous but it will slow approaching bends (if it thinks necessary) and roundabouts etc (but not to a halt). I find it a bit over cautious on bends and I prefer to coast down to obstacles instead of braking, as the system does, but it works. It will steer very well (and perform automatic lane changes) provided it can detect lane markings/road edges. Makes for a relaxing drive.
barian said:
The OP is asking about the Driver Assistance Pack, which includes Route Based Speed Adaptation and Steering Pilot. No, it is not fully autonomous but it will slow approaching bends (if it thinks necessary) and roundabouts etc (but not to a halt). I find it a bit over cautious on bends and I prefer to coast down to obstacles instead of braking, as the system does, but it works. It will steer very well (and perform automatic lane changes) provided it can detect lane markings/road edges. Makes for a relaxing drive.
Yes, I tested it today and it is steering at normal bends on the dual carriage way but it does not detect the lane on single carriage way. It is also showing me mesaage to keep my hand on the steering every few seconds but my hands were always on the steering. I don't know why it is not able to detect my hands. And idea? As nobody else is replying (and this is purely guesswork as I know nothing of this Mercedes assistance pack) the steering wheel could be pressure or touch sensitive (like a smartphone screen) or it could detect actual steering input by you. Even driving in a straight line you would normally be making constant minor corrections; if you are holding the wheel and allowing the car to do all the work it might sense the lack of input.
As I said, purely a guess, and it might be best to have the dealer check it for you.
As I said, purely a guess, and it might be best to have the dealer check it for you.
"Yes, I tested it today and it is steering at normal bends on the dual carriage way but it does not detect the lane on single carriage way. It is also showing me mesaage to keep my hand on the steering every few seconds but my hands were always on the steering. I don't know why it is not able to detect my hands. And idea? "
It takes a bit of getting used to. Just keeping your hands on the wheel will not be enough to prevent the warning. You have to make some small steering inputs every minute or so, so that the system knows you are still awake. It is as though the system is doing nearly all of the steering but you are just helping occasionally. I found it a bit odd at first, but after a while you will get the hang of it. BTW if you continue to ignore the warnings, the system will assume you are incapicitated in some way and will hold the car in lane, slowly bring it to a halt, switch on the hazard warning lights, unlock the doors, and make a call to the emergency services. I haven't tried this yet!
It takes a bit of getting used to. Just keeping your hands on the wheel will not be enough to prevent the warning. You have to make some small steering inputs every minute or so, so that the system knows you are still awake. It is as though the system is doing nearly all of the steering but you are just helping occasionally. I found it a bit odd at first, but after a while you will get the hang of it. BTW if you continue to ignore the warnings, the system will assume you are incapicitated in some way and will hold the car in lane, slowly bring it to a halt, switch on the hazard warning lights, unlock the doors, and make a call to the emergency services. I haven't tried this yet!
barian said:
"Yes, I tested it today and it is steering at normal bends on the dual carriage way but it does not detect the lane on single carriage way. It is also showing me mesaage to keep my hand on the steering every few seconds but my hands were always on the steering. I don't know why it is not able to detect my hands. And idea? "
It takes a bit of getting used to. Just keeping your hands on the wheel will not be enough to prevent the warning. You have to make some small steering inputs every minute or so, so that the system knows you are still awake. It is as though the system is doing nearly all of the steering but you are just helping occasionally. I found it a bit odd at first, but after a while you will get the hang of it. BTW if you continue to ignore the warnings, the system will assume you are incapicitated in some way and will hold the car in lane, slowly bring it to a halt, switch on the hazard warning lights, unlock the doors, and make a call to the emergency services. I haven't tried this yet!
Thanks It takes a bit of getting used to. Just keeping your hands on the wheel will not be enough to prevent the warning. You have to make some small steering inputs every minute or so, so that the system knows you are still awake. It is as though the system is doing nearly all of the steering but you are just helping occasionally. I found it a bit odd at first, but after a while you will get the hang of it. BTW if you continue to ignore the warnings, the system will assume you are incapicitated in some way and will hold the car in lane, slowly bring it to a halt, switch on the hazard warning lights, unlock the doors, and make a call to the emergency services. I haven't tried this yet!
yes it is quite odd :Pbarian said:
You may also want to try the automatic lane change. Put the indicator on and, if it is clear, it will steer you in to the appropriate lane.
Yes Active Lane Change Assist.....what a horrible feature to have on any car, and even worse if a driver actually uses it. I read that when this was introduced by Mercedes around 3 years ago they said it would not be activated on cars sold in the UK, so has this changed now?
Ron240 said:
es Active Lane Change Assist.....what a horrible feature to have on any car, and even worse if a driver actually uses it.
I read that when this was introduced by Mercedes around 3 years ago they said it would not be activated on cars sold in the UK, so has this changed now?
yes, My recent car has thatI read that when this was introduced by Mercedes around 3 years ago they said it would not be activated on cars sold in the UK, so has this changed now?
barian said:
You may also want to try the automatic lane change. Put the indicator on and, if it is clear, it will steer you in to the appropriate lane.
yes, I tested that but it takes time to display the message on the screen "changing lane on right/left" after the indicator has been turned on.Do you have a Remote parking pilot? I have checked with the Mercedes me customer care and they said your car has not been configured for this.
Ron240 said:
barian said:
You may also want to try the automatic lane change. Put the indicator on and, if it is clear, it will steer you in to the appropriate lane.
Yes Active Lane Change Assist.....what a horrible feature to have on any car, and even worse if a driver actually uses it. I read that when this was introduced by Mercedes around 3 years ago they said it would not be activated on cars sold in the UK, so has this changed now?
chandresh87 said:
yes, I tested that but it takes time to display the message on the screen "changing lane on right/left" after the indicator has been turned on.
Do you have a Remote parking pilot? I have checked with the Mercedes me customer care and they said your car has not been configured for this.
It does sometimes take longer than expected. I suspect it is quite cautious before initiating the manoeuvre. I don't have Remote Parking Pilot. It was available but I understand has been dropped. I don't know why. Do you have a Remote parking pilot? I have checked with the Mercedes me customer care and they said your car has not been configured for this.
Mmm, interesting!
I have the lane keep, active cruise and steering thing (I can never remember the damn names). Lane keep is pretty good, but sometimes freaks out on a few sections of local roads. The active cruise works well too, with steering on well defined and marked roads. As soon as it cant make out the lines, you have lost it. Does maintain speed well with speed up and slow down that is seamless (better than my wife's Malibu) and it will maintain speed going down steep hills (and turns the brake lights on too). But mines the earlier package and wont slow down for corners. Interesting to see they have moved it on....
I have the lane keep, active cruise and steering thing (I can never remember the damn names). Lane keep is pretty good, but sometimes freaks out on a few sections of local roads. The active cruise works well too, with steering on well defined and marked roads. As soon as it cant make out the lines, you have lost it. Does maintain speed well with speed up and slow down that is seamless (better than my wife's Malibu) and it will maintain speed going down steep hills (and turns the brake lights on too). But mines the earlier package and wont slow down for corners. Interesting to see they have moved it on....
barian said:
I like it, but each to their own. You speak from experience?
You will love full autonomous vehicles when they arrive then.....it means you will not have to be bothered with the chore of driving at all. 
Seriously though, just how many automatic systems that take the most basic functions out of the drivers control do you want?
This active lane change thing is just ridiculous in my opinion.
Obviously you will disagree though.
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