Merc police cars - why not ?

Merc police cars - why not ?

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loggo

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432 posts

117 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Just a random thought this as I'm sat in bed waiting for Mrs. Loggo to cook breakfast but why do I never see a Merc police car whilst there are thousands of BMWs ?
In the police van world I see plenty of vitos and sprinters so it seems strange there are no cars.

Monkeylegend

27,047 posts

236 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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Someone will be along soon to say they are too unreliable smile

Mercedes support the taxi/chauffeur trade where they sell umpteen millions of cars doing umpteen billions of miles each year so probably are not too bothered about the police business which must be miniscule by comparison.

HTP99

23,117 posts

145 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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BMW probably offer a better deal than Mercedes.

I do know that BMW also offer fantastic driver training and facilities for their armoured cars and they are all built on the production line as opposed to a normal car being built and then dismantled to be made armoured. A good friend of mine used to work in the Met as a protection officer and had been over to Germany many times to test and evaluate BMW's and to see the facilities.

Scrump

22,751 posts

163 months

Sunday 24th February 2019
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They do exist, but you are right in that they are not common.

donkmeister

8,924 posts

105 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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An unmarked Mercedes E-class... With a 5.5l V8!

But apart from the other poster's picture above I can't recall ever seeing a marked Mercedes police car in the UK...

anonymous-user

59 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Parts prices and servicing costs probably. Not that BMW is cheap, but cheaper than MB.

I don't know why they stopped with Volvo, well, ok the V60 was quite small, but the current offerings are good. Maybe 'cos they're all 4cyls they're not fast enough!

Keeping with British I'd like to see Jags and Land Rovers. Just don't mention reliability.

HTP99

23,117 posts

145 months

Monday 25th February 2019
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Kierkegaard said:
Keeping with British I'd like to see Jags and Land Rovers. Just don't mention reliability.
My mate, the ex Met protection officer who I've mentioned a few posts up told me that the armoured Jags and Range Rovers had awful reliability; they weren't armoured on the production line like the BMW's are, they are built then dismantled, armoured then re built.

Boycie999

99 posts

164 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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Pericoloso

44,044 posts

168 months

Tuesday 26th February 2019
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I'm sure I've seen an M or ML class with the Battenburg on it.

Stu78

183 posts

140 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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When I worked at a Merc dealer in the early 00s we had a large contract with Lancashire police and supplied them M-Class, unmarked C Class and Sprinters. SImple fact is other manufacturers came in and offered a better deal, not just on the cars but the service packages that go with them.

Jakg

3,551 posts

173 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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Boycie999 said:
IIRC the manufacturer supplied demos have no force-specific branding, which suggests this an on-loan evaluator and not one they've purchased.

alabbasi

2,618 posts

92 months

Wednesday 27th February 2019
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More than likely financial and probably has to to do with the service contract.

st4

1,359 posts

138 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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alabbasi said:
More than likely financial and probably has to to do with the service contract.
They did - about 15 years ago the W203 was the big bobby car of choice up here. They replaced them with E60 5 series which in turn has been replaced by X5's, F10's and 2012 onwards BMW 3 series.

Abroad you see plenty of Merc police cars in mainland Europe.

Anecdotally I heard BMW gave dibble a much better deal than Mercedes and that was that.

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yellowbentines

5,511 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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Ive always wondered why you never see any Lexus police cars - I mean, they're the most reliable, best looking, well built cars on the planet.

st4

1,359 posts

138 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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yellowbentines said:
Ive always wondered why you never see any Lexus police cars - I mean, they're the most reliable, best looking, well built cars on the planet.
They are.

They’d be wasted on dibble.

Jakg

3,551 posts

173 months

Thursday 7th March 2019
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yellowbentines said:
Ive always wondered why you never see any Lexus police cars - I mean, they're the most reliable, best looking, well built cars on the planet.
Political reasons - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-ca...

The real reason for "why not x" will always be money. Some manufacturers offer massive discounts, and some very little. And servicing, warranties and conversion costs need to be taken into account - none of which are really in the public domain, which leads to people moaning that they are using *insert-premium-brand-here* when they don't think they should.

ralphrj

3,624 posts

196 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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st4 said:
alabbasi said:
More than likely financial and probably has to to do with the service contract.
They did - about 15 years ago the W203 was the big bobby car of choice up here. They replaced them with E60 5 series which in turn has been replaced by X5's, F10's and 2012 onwards BMW 3 series.

Abroad you see plenty of Merc police cars in mainland Europe.

Anecdotally I heard BMW gave dibble a much better deal than Mercedes and that was that.
I started work at MB in 2004 and 'bluelight' sales were in the process of being rundown for 2 major reasons:

1. BMW were very aggressive with their pricing. They seemed to have a never ending source of run-out E39 cars and could supply a 530d for less than we could supply a C270CDi.

2. MB had only entered the 'bluelight' market a few years earlier and their main offering was the W203 and S203 C-Class. However, pre-facelift models suffered numerous problems (especially electrical) which caused poor reliability and had made them unpopular with buyers.

RedWhiteMonkey

7,037 posts

187 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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All police cars are Mercedes in my neck of the woods, admittedly I am about five miles from Stuttgart!

Ilovejapcrap

3,291 posts

117 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Jakg said:
Ahh the humberside Lexus IS-f I oftern saw it at Goole McDonald’s, interesting bit about a lot of hunberside fleet being protons.

My friend was a humberside copper and said the 1.6 (I think ) petrol engine proton was once up to speed surprisingly good at keeping momentum across the rural back roads this way out.

The astras they had on the other hand big lumps that wondered, so much so Vauxhall’s alloys got purchased and tyres upgraded to try and resolve !

Evanivitch

21,581 posts

127 months

Friday 8th March 2019
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Several of the high-spec police cars have moved away from the premium market as bases and now use Skoda's (armoured Superbs especially). Simply because of the size and parts bin availability.

HTP99 said:
Kierkegaard said:
Keeping with British I'd like to see Jags and Land Rovers. Just don't mention reliability.
My mate, the ex Met protection officer who I've mentioned a few posts up told me that the armoured Jags and Range Rovers had awful reliability; they weren't armoured on the production line like the BMW's are, they are built then dismantled, armoured then re built.
Maybe in the past, but certainly not any more. All JLR armoured products are built in the production line.