What APR for new Mercedes on a PCP?

What APR for new Mercedes on a PCP?

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snerkler

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132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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We're looking at the new A35 AMG for my wife and I was wondering what sort of APR you can push Mercedes to on new cars as I've never dealt with them before. I know when I've bought BMW in the past I've struggled to get below 5%, but when I was pricing up an Audi I did get them down to 4%.

Assuming there's no 0% offers on, what's the best APR you can expect? For the record my 'local' Mercedes dealership is JCT600

anonymous-user

59 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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8% discount offers on carwow but they are based on taking the 6.3% apr

st4

1,359 posts

138 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Maybe buying the car outright without finance is also an option...

snerkler

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132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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euphoricmess said:
8% discount offers on carwow but they are based on taking the 6.3% apr
Thanks. I think Mercedes general rate is 6.3% but I didn’t know if there was any room for negotiation.

snerkler

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132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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st4 said:
Maybe buying the car outright without finance is also an option...
I wish wink

JonChalk

6,469 posts

115 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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snerkler said:
st4 said:
Maybe buying the car outright without finance is also an option...
I wish wink
Oh dear, now you've set them off!

I'm going to huddle down in my bunker for a while; let me know when the PH smoke clears.

st4

1,359 posts

138 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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snerkler said:
wish wink
Bank loan?

Buying outright a cheaper car? Lots of great cars out there.

snerkler

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132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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JonChalk said:
Oh dear, now you've set them off!

I'm going to huddle down in my bunker for a while; let me know when the PH smoke clears.
Oops, have I put my foot in something wink

snerkler

Original Poster:

132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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st4 said:
Bank loan?

Buying outright a cheaper car? Lots of great cars out there.
Ahh right, still not affordable for us, rightly or wrongly we do PCP.

Could get a cheaper car but where’s the fun in that wink

Joking aside, I do appreciate people suggesting other options but we know what we want to buy and the best way for us to buy it, I just want to make sure I get the best deal I can smile

JonChalk

6,469 posts

115 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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snerkler said:
Oops, have I put my foot in something wink
There's a small, but vocal PH community who view PCP as the spawn of the devil and not something a true PH'r would ever use or consider - it means you're just about impressing the neighbours and social status, not the car.

They're wrong and it's trolling bks, so don't worry about those posts, but you will get people posting that you should be buying a nine year old ex-taxi Focus instead.

snerkler

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132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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JonChalk said:
There's a small, but vocal PH community who view PCP as the spawn of the devil and not something a true PH'r would ever use or consider - it means you're just about impressing the neighbours and social status, not the car.

They're wrong and it's trolling bks, so don't worry about those posts, but you will get people posting that you should be buying a nine year old ex-taxi Focus instead.
Ahh, thanks for the heads up smile

st4

1,359 posts

138 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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JonChalk said:
There's a small, but vocal PH community who view PCP as the spawn of the devil and not something a true PH'r would ever use or consider - it means you're just about impressing the neighbours and social status, not the car.

They're wrong and it's trolling bks, so don't worry about those posts, but you will get people posting that you should be buying a nine year old ex-taxi Focus instead.
Except they’re not wrong. You are.

It’s an outlook like yours that have caused personal debt levels rise to crisis levels and worryingly to a situation where people’s expenditures are exceeding their incomes.

PCP finance carries a huge sting in the tail - negative equity and advising someone to buy something more modest rather than saddle themselves with lots debt to “rent” a highly depreciating thing like a car is crazy.

If people actually saved up for their things we wouldn’t be in the dire predicament we are in.

anonymous-user

59 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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st4 said:
Except they’re not wrong. You are.

It’s an outlook like yours that have caused personal debt levels rise to crisis levels and worryingly to a situation where people’s expenditures are exceeding their incomes.

PCP finance carries a huge sting in the tail - negative equity and advising someone to buy something more modest rather than saddle themselves with lots debt to “rent” a highly depreciating thing like a car is crazy.

If people actually saved up for their things we wouldn’t be in the dire predicament we are in.
fking hell. Gross generalisation there pal.

2+2=84 with this thinking.

JonChalk

6,469 posts

115 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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st4 said:
Except they’re not wrong. You are.

It’s an outlook like yours that have caused personal debt levels rise to crisis levels and worryingly to a situation where people’s expenditures are exceeding their incomes.

PCP finance carries a huge sting in the tail - negative equity and advising someone to buy something more modest rather than saddle themselves with lots debt to “rent” a highly depreciating thing like a car is crazy.

If people actually saved up for their things we wouldn’t be in the dire predicament we are in.
See........you can't be trusted to work out your own finances, or make sensible decisions for your life........some internet keyboard warrior will be along shortly to tell you how to do it - but their way.

snerkler

Original Poster:

132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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st4 said:
Except they’re not wrong. You are.

It’s an outlook like yours that have caused personal debt levels rise to crisis levels and worryingly to a situation where people’s expenditures are exceeding their incomes.

PCP finance carries a huge sting in the tail - negative equity and advising someone to buy something more modest rather than saddle themselves with lots debt to “rent” a highly depreciating thing like a car is crazy.

If people actually saved up for their things we wouldn’t be in the dire predicament we are in.
Yeah big generalisation that, I’ve never missed a payment or got myself into financial difficulty. By similar reasoning (other than the depreciation) I guess no-one should ever get a mortgage either, those things are massively front loaded with interest.

snerkler

Original Poster:

132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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JonChalk said:
See........you can't be trusted to work out your own finances, or make sensible decisions for your life........some internet keyboard warrior will be along shortly to tell you how to do it - but their way.
Yeah I’m with you on this one. I’m perfectly capable of understanding my finances and never got into financial difficulty.

I understand people have different outlooks which is fine, but I don’t agree with people who try to force their opinion(s) and someone else.

My PCP deals are always within my means, if I didn’t understand my finances and was ‘happy’ to get into financial trouble I’d be driving a Range Rover Vogue V8 supercharged, but alas I’m not wink

Ian-27xza

221 posts

98 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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The 'how to pay for my new car' debate is an interesting one.

It largely depends on each individuals circumstances and they will vary considerably. Some could sink £45k into a car and buy outright but that doesn't mean that this is the best way for them.

Some on PH would seem to think that if you finance your car through a PCP or lease then you are somehow 'unworthy' of your chosen steed. And that the only way to purchase anything is to save up cash and use that. What a load of toot - Economies and most business never work like that - fact.

80% of all new car purchases are made using some sort of financing. If this facility was to go away the car industry would be hit hard. This means that the people that could use cash for a car purchase would be screwed because all of a sudden prices would rocket or some car manufactures would cease to exist. Neither of which are desirable outcomes for anyone!

When I looked in Sep 17 the best rate for MBZ was about 4.9%, IIRC.




Monkeylegend

27,050 posts

236 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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If only we had a 31 page thread to discuss PCP.

You will be advised to buy a Lexus next OP.

Dog Star

16,354 posts

173 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Ian-27xza said:



Some on PH would seem to think that if you finance your car through a PCP or lease then you are somehow 'unworthy' of your chosen steed. And that the only way to purchase anything is to save up cash and use that. What a load of toot - Economies and most business never work like that - fact.
A mate of mine is a salesman for BMW - main agent, big city in the north.

He was telling me that they see almost nobody rocking in and spunking 60k in cash pound notes - if they do then it’s often quite suspect types.



snerkler

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132 posts

68 months

Sunday 20th January 2019
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Ian-27xza said:
When I looked in Sep 17 the best rate for MBZ was about 4.9%, IIRC.
Thanks, useful to know smile