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Not an issue for me then. Where i live, we drive on the right side.
Any otherr issues? Electrical, mechanical? Engine and drivetrain?
The plan is to get a new one and keep it for 8 to 10 years. I used to be a Toyota man. That is, all my previous car as well as the current one, were Toyota's. But Toyota doesn't offer anything fast and fun these days. At least not in Europe. What worries me is, that being used to Toyota reliability, how will a german car be in comparisation.
Any otherr issues? Electrical, mechanical? Engine and drivetrain?
The plan is to get a new one and keep it for 8 to 10 years. I used to be a Toyota man. That is, all my previous car as well as the current one, were Toyota's. But Toyota doesn't offer anything fast and fun these days. At least not in Europe. What worries me is, that being used to Toyota reliability, how will a german car be in comparisation.
I had a fully loaded C43 a couple of years ago. Fabulous car and quick too. The only thing I would say is the C43 felt heavy (as it probably was) and that took a bit of the fun away. Incredibly sure footed in nearly all conditions and the CF interior I specced was lovely. I moved into a lighter, more powerful car and I still think the C43 is a quick car.
Have had mine for a year now. Has been very solid - hasn’t been back to the garage since I took delivery. Is going in for first service in a couple of weeks and have zero niggles to report. A first for me.
Have heard of a few complaints that the gearbox can be jerky in traffic in manual mode. Haven’t noticed it myself but I only tend to go manual when pressing on.
Overall I’m very pleased with mine. Will be keeping it a while.
Have heard of a few complaints that the gearbox can be jerky in traffic in manual mode. Haven’t noticed it myself but I only tend to go manual when pressing on.
Overall I’m very pleased with mine. Will be keeping it a while.
SF695 said:
Thanks. Got a little worried reading some of the reviews out there.
Any notable difference between the pre and post facelift? The one i testdrove was a pre facelift. 9 speed auto and 367 metric horsepower.
Post facelift has 390 horsepower. Apart from that, what are the differences?
Definitely go for the facelift, will retain its value better as there’s quite a big difference in the interior, wider screen, digital cockpit, new steering wheel...latest tech basically! The pre facelift one’s are 2014 designs so they’re showing their age. The new C43 also has a designed rear diffuser with quad tail pipes and has the proper AMG front grille. The pre facelifts were basically AMG lines with a metal strip on the exhausts. Any notable difference between the pre and post facelift? The one i testdrove was a pre facelift. 9 speed auto and 367 metric horsepower.
Post facelift has 390 horsepower. Apart from that, what are the differences?
I’m not saying the pre facelifts are bad, at the right price it could be a steal however the facelift looks a lot better.
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/mercede...
That should explain all the mechanical differences between the two as I wouldn’t know.
SF695 said:
Thanks. Got a little worried reading some of the reviews out there.
Any notable difference between the pre and post facelift? The one i testdrove was a pre facelift. 9 speed auto and 367 metric horsepower.
Post facelift has 390 horsepower. Apart from that, what are the differences?
Digital dashAny notable difference between the pre and post facelift? The one i testdrove was a pre facelift. 9 speed auto and 367 metric horsepower.
Post facelift has 390 horsepower. Apart from that, what are the differences?
Extra BHP
Marginally quieter
Smoother in Sports+ (Far nicer to realistically drive on a day to day)
Quad exhaust pipes rather than more subtle ones
Former C63 front grill rather than standard C Class grille.
Larger display screen
Deffo worth getting the facelift!
SF695 said:
Not an issue for me then. Where i live, we drive on the right side.
Any otherr issues? Electrical, mechanical? Engine and drivetrain?
The plan is to get a new one and keep it for 8 to 10 years. I used to be a Toyota man. That is, all my previous car as well as the current one, were Toyota's. But Toyota doesn't offer anything fast and fun these days. At least not in Europe. What worries me is, that being used to Toyota reliability, how will a german car be in comparisation.
The reliability will be horrific. They are terrible in comparison to a Japanese cars and quite a shock after owning Toyotas. Any otherr issues? Electrical, mechanical? Engine and drivetrain?
The plan is to get a new one and keep it for 8 to 10 years. I used to be a Toyota man. That is, all my previous car as well as the current one, were Toyota's. But Toyota doesn't offer anything fast and fun these days. At least not in Europe. What worries me is, that being used to Toyota reliability, how will a german car be in comparisation.
Buy a Lexus RCF used or new, do not buy a German car unless you like your dash board lighting up like Blackpool at christmas, and being stranded at the side of the road, then thrown under the bus when you want help and support from the dealership. The Lexus RCF has a far nicer V8 engine too.
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st4 said:
The reliability will be horrific. They are terrible in comparison to a Japanese cars and quite a shock after owning Toyotas.
Buy a Lexus RCF used or new, do not buy a German car unless you like your dash board lighting up like Blackpool at christmas, and being stranded at the side of the road, then thrown under the bus when you want help and support from the dealership. The Lexus RCF has a far nicer V8 engine too.
The Lexus RCF is in an entirely different price level. Besides, it's a coupe. I've got a family and i need a sedan. And although it's got a V8 engine which 10 years ago was state of the art, it lacks the turbo's and the wide torque band that comes with them.Buy a Lexus RCF used or new, do not buy a German car unless you like your dash board lighting up like Blackpool at christmas, and being stranded at the side of the road, then thrown under the bus when you want help and support from the dealership. The Lexus RCF has a far nicer V8 engine too.
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SF695 said:
The Lexus RCF is in an entirely different price level. Besides, it's a coupe. I've got a family and i need a sedan. And although it's got a V8 engine which 10 years ago was state of the art, it lacks the turbo's and the wide torque band that comes with them.
Find a used GSF - the response of one of the best, maybe the best, V8 engine of modern times is awesome and the fact you have to work it more will make it infinitely more rewarding to drive. It's got plenty of torque, 390ft/lb at 4k revs, not exactly a torque light screamer. It will be roomier, more fun, more reliable and better. Mercedes reliability is utterly appalling - you're going from the most reliable of car makers to one of the worst. Do it with your eyes open - no such thing as a "pretty bullet proof" Mercedes and the dealers when you need them the most will throw you under the bus and treat you like the scrapping off the bottom of a shoe.
Listen - I've owned 5 Mercedes and 4 had serious mechanical issues and not just confined to the engine.
I've had a Lexus and Toyota and had one siezed caliper on the Toyota and that's it and some loose trim in the Lexus. The service from both Toyota and Lexus dealers has been excellent and they've never put a foot a wrong.
With Mercedes the service was rude, they didn't fix the car, put someone elses wheels on my own car (yes really), and never fixed the rust despite the car having a warranty to cover such a defect.
Quite frankly I think you are mad to even consider buying one.
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st4 said:
Find a used GSF - the response of one of the best, maybe the best, V8 engine of modern times is awesome and the fact you have to work it more will make it infinitely more rewarding to drive. It's got plenty of torque, 390ft/lb at 4k revs, not exactly a torque light screamer. It will be roomier, more fun, more reliable and better.
Mercedes reliability is utterly appalling - you're going from the most reliable of car makers to one of the worst. Do it with your eyes open - no such thing as a "pretty bullet proof" Mercedes and the dealers when you need them the most will throw you under the bus and treat you like the scrapping off the bottom of a shoe.
Listen - I've owned 5 Mercedes and 4 had serious mechanical issues and not just confined to the engine.
I've had a Lexus and Toyota and had one siezed caliper on the Toyota and that's it and some loose trim in the Lexus. The service from both Toyota and Lexus dealers has been excellent and they've never put a foot a wrong.
With Mercedes the service was rude, they didn't fix the car, put someone elses wheels on my own car (yes really), and never fixed the rust despite the car having a warranty to cover such a defect.
Quite frankly I think you are mad to even consider buying one.
I'm sorry about your bad experience.Mercedes reliability is utterly appalling - you're going from the most reliable of car makers to one of the worst. Do it with your eyes open - no such thing as a "pretty bullet proof" Mercedes and the dealers when you need them the most will throw you under the bus and treat you like the scrapping off the bottom of a shoe.
Listen - I've owned 5 Mercedes and 4 had serious mechanical issues and not just confined to the engine.
I've had a Lexus and Toyota and had one siezed caliper on the Toyota and that's it and some loose trim in the Lexus. The service from both Toyota and Lexus dealers has been excellent and they've never put a foot a wrong.
With Mercedes the service was rude, they didn't fix the car, put someone elses wheels on my own car (yes really), and never fixed the rust despite the car having a warranty to cover such a defect.
Quite frankly I think you are mad to even consider buying one.
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Now, the reason why i don't buy a Lexus or another Toyota is several. I live in a small island country, where a specific model of used cars is hard and in the case of the GSF impossible to come buy, unless buy one over the internet.
Second, i want to buy a new car with new technology, with additional package of free service and ofcourse the guarantee that comes with a new car. What's more, my wife insists upon a new car. And Toyota/Lexus on the european marked simply doesn't offer the same, in particular regarding engines, as the german's do, within the price level i'm considering. Cars on average cost at least 2 or even 3 times as much here as in the United States, because of taxation.
Now , i could order a new GSF, but it would cost me around 250.000$
Now, although i haven't bought any cars from them so far, i've heard nothing bad about the Mercedes dealer here and they always come up with good offers, compared to for ex. BMW or Audi. Like 100.000$ for a new C43, compared to 130.000 for the comparable Audi S4 or even the BMW 340i with far less power.
Regarding Toyota/Lexus. The fastest Toyota we get here from new, is the Camry Hybrid. We don't get the V6 version. The fastest Lexus Sedan is the IS or GS 300h(for hybrid) with around the same power as the Camry. And these are cars that are far more expensive than the 390 horsepower AWD AMG C43.
Edited by SF695 on Monday 7th January 19:56
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