E63 AMG Alloy Buckling

E63 AMG Alloy Buckling

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nickbie

Original Poster:

50 posts

116 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Hi My local Merc dealer told me last August that my front nearside and rear nearside alloys were buckled, I replaced them as was told it was tricky to repair, last week ATS told me that both my front alloys were buckled, I drive on normal roads at normal speeds, I've not been aware of hitting any major potholes so I'm wondering if there is some design fault/weakness with AMG 19" Alloys, I did raise it with Mercedes UK the first time, and they basically said tough luck. Am I just unlucky or is something else going on here?

andy43

10,212 posts

259 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Any heavy car with 19s will bend it's rims at some point. Runflat tyres are the kiss of death. Merc wheels do seem to be made of the same special German cheese BMW use unfortunately.

parabolica

6,795 posts

189 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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What age of E63?

IIRC the original CLS63 suffered from soft alloys that resulted in plenty of buckled examples.Is it the thin, 5-star design? Might be worth looking at an alternative design.

nickbie

Original Poster:

50 posts

116 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Its a 2014 model with the 10 spoke alloys

Phil Dicky

7,162 posts

268 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Have they shown you how bad, can you feel any wobble etc.....I would have thought even a slight buckle would be felt through the wheel.

nickbie

Original Poster:

50 posts

116 months

Saturday 10th March 2018
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I've just been to another alloy 'specialist' and he said basically to ignore the diagnosis, as indeed, wobble would be felt if there was a real problem with buckled alloys, so as long as I don't get overtaken by one of my own wheels whist driving along, I'll live with it. Thanks for your input.

mikey P 500

1,240 posts

192 months

Sunday 11th March 2018
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I damaged an AMG style 19" wheel on my wife's C class a couple of weeks ago in a pot hole, was a fairly large pot hole (didn't see but.loud bang) but guessing the low profile tyre more to blame than soft alloy.

XMT

3,861 posts

152 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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nickbie said:
I've just been to another alloy 'specialist' and he said basically to ignore the diagnosis, as indeed, wobble would be felt if there was a real problem with buckled alloys, so as long as I don't get overtaken by one of my own wheels whist driving along, I'll live with it. Thanks for your input.
Not sure what that means. Either the wheel does have a kink/buckle in it or it doesn't. It's very simple to check: you put the wheel on a balancer and look at the inside and outside edge to check for out of round kinks.

If there are kinks it WILL be causing vibrations, it just depends how fussy you are.

NITO

1,133 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st March 2018
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Potholes will buckle these 19’s. I think these AMG’s are over alloyed for our crap roads. It is likely bulged on the inside. So long as the tyre holds air you should be fine at legal speeds but another knock could push it over the edge. I hit a pothole with both n/s rims and immediately switched my display to tyre pressure. I noticed I had lost about 20kpa straight away. On the way to work it continued to drop, slowly at first, enough I thought to get me to work to change the wheel, then I went around a corner and it suddenly lost a whole amount very quickly! Fortunately I was able to pull into a pet cemetery and change the wheel. I bought a new rim and tyre, then on the dealer ramp, the rear was buckled, not enough to lose air but again, driving at speed I wouldn’t want to risk it so I bought another new wheel and tyre. Lepsoms alloys said they can repair a small buckle for £69.

Here is a pic of mine which will show you what you’re looking for.



Ps, no vibrations or any other malladies were felt.

Pps, in case you were wondering...


And a bill of over 2k!

Edited by NITO on Wednesday 21st March 20:25

XMT

3,861 posts

152 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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Holly smokes! thats some size of pothole too!.
How much were the alloys each?

Dunit

643 posts

210 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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It's always the unsupported inside bead that buckle's first, Also you may want to lift the tyre pressure slightly .
Because of the low aspect ratio the sidewall collapses allowing all the shock to be fed into the rim, Running the tyre harder help s combat this.

NITO

1,133 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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XMT said:
Holly smokes! thats some size of pothole too!.
How much were the alloys each?
£680 for the rear and £670 for the front with a little discount, dealer took pity on me! Then there was tyres and geometry on top.




DamienCBR

2,037 posts

228 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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NITO said:
£680 for the rear and £670 for the front with a little discount, dealer took pity on me! Then there was tyres and geometry on top.
That's our Kent roads for you. Bloody awful at the moment. Were you able to claim anything from the council?

NITO

1,133 posts

211 months

Thursday 22nd March 2018
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We’ve had a fair amount of correspondence, they offered £900 as a goodwill gesture, I have load of photos and reports, the hole was reported a couple of weeks before and the same area was reported again this year by me and others and they took weeks to sort. I haven’t got around to writing back but I’m disinclined to accept £900 when I’m in for £2300. Might end up going to court which will be the next action. Have taken loads more pics this year which confirms a total lack of duty of care. First brand new car I’ve ever bought and this happened at about 1500 miles. Was totally gutted. Love the car but should have bought a GLE with the state of the awful country lanes near me, especially as we are out in the country!!

XMT

3,861 posts

152 months

Monday 26th March 2018
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NITO said:
We’ve had a fair amount of correspondence, they offered £900 as a goodwill gesture, I have load of photos and reports, the hole was reported a couple of weeks before and the same area was reported again this year by me and others and they took weeks to sort. I haven’t got around to writing back but I’m disinclined to accept £900 when I’m in for £2300. Might end up going to court which will be the next action. Have taken loads more pics this year which confirms a total lack of duty of care. First brand new car I’ve ever bought and this happened at about 1500 miles. Was totally gutted. Love the car but should have bought a GLE with the state of the awful country lanes near me, especially as we are out in the country!!
100% stick to your guns. Its actually an insult to offer you 900 pounds.

Had 4 of my wheels checked and all of them have slight buckles in them. Audi want 800 a wheel. I know people can say they can be refurbished but once an alloy is; its no the same, thats a fact, especially when its heated to be bent back to shape.

Complete abuse of the driving public and tax payer as far as I am concerned.