2014-on C200 MPG (W205)
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Anyone gone for the C200 petrol in the new C-Class? Some cracking deals on them at the moment and the claimed figures are very impressive but hard to believe.
Real MPG on the Honest John site suggests 51mpg which seems incredible and I'm wondering if maybe people with the C200 Bluetech diesel have been recording their figures against the wrong engine.
Anyone got any first hand experience of the C200 petrol?
Real MPG on the Honest John site suggests 51mpg which seems incredible and I'm wondering if maybe people with the C200 Bluetech diesel have been recording their figures against the wrong engine.
Anyone got any first hand experience of the C200 petrol?
I am interested in the answer to the same question however if you look closely at honest john i don't believe anyone has actually submitted a figure for a c200 petrol.
I currently drive an octavia vrs tdi and the published figure for the merc is actually slightly better than the diesel skoda. If the real mpg was 43-44mpg like my skoda then I think i will probably have one as my next car.
They seem a lot cheaper than the diesels.
What sort of deal are you looking at?
I currently drive an octavia vrs tdi and the published figure for the merc is actually slightly better than the diesel skoda. If the real mpg was 43-44mpg like my skoda then I think i will probably have one as my next car.
They seem a lot cheaper than the diesels.
What sort of deal are you looking at?
I'm looking at a lease deal on the SE manual, it's about £70 a month cheaper than the C220 CDI/Bluewhatsit which (assuming it can actually do mid 40's MPG) more than takes care of the difference in fuel cost between the two.
I'm just waiting to see how much the price goes up by when you add my 25k p/a mileage in.
Current published deal is £210p/m inc VAT on a 9+32 at 10k p/a.
It's an interesting one - the latest petrol engines claim very impressive MPG numbers and if they are cheaper to buy in the first place could make a lot of sense for the vast majority of people. Unfortunately though there seems to be absolutely no interest in them from reviewers, every single review I've read just glosses over the C200 as if it's completely irrelevant. If it actually does what it says though it seems like it would be the pick of the range at the lower power end of things.
I'm just waiting to see how much the price goes up by when you add my 25k p/a mileage in.
Current published deal is £210p/m inc VAT on a 9+32 at 10k p/a.
It's an interesting one - the latest petrol engines claim very impressive MPG numbers and if they are cheaper to buy in the first place could make a lot of sense for the vast majority of people. Unfortunately though there seems to be absolutely no interest in them from reviewers, every single review I've read just glosses over the C200 as if it's completely irrelevant. If it actually does what it says though it seems like it would be the pick of the range at the lower power end of things.
Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 16th January 08:31
Where you looking for those deals?
I would probably looking at a c200 sport estate with probably zero options, My mileage probably about 12500 a year.
I was going to keep my octavia until at least april and then start looking at new cars with a view to a part-ex plus cash outright purchase however at those sort of prices i could be tempted to sell the octavia and use the equity to fund a lease. Then i could use the cash i was going to blow on a new car to pay a chunk off the mortgage.
Whats the criteria for the lease ? Im not self employed and don't get a car allowance however I can claim mileage for business use although I do so few business miles in a year I don't generally bother to fill the claim forms in.
Just stuck my octavia in webuyanycar and it reckons£13780 so even if they knocked it down to a straight 13000 then i would have only lost 5000 on it in 21 months which isn't bad at all i think. Thats all equity too so would probably easy fund a lease and give me a chunk of cash to spare.
I would probably looking at a c200 sport estate with probably zero options, My mileage probably about 12500 a year.
I was going to keep my octavia until at least april and then start looking at new cars with a view to a part-ex plus cash outright purchase however at those sort of prices i could be tempted to sell the octavia and use the equity to fund a lease. Then i could use the cash i was going to blow on a new car to pay a chunk off the mortgage.
Whats the criteria for the lease ? Im not self employed and don't get a car allowance however I can claim mileage for business use although I do so few business miles in a year I don't generally bother to fill the claim forms in.
Just stuck my octavia in webuyanycar and it reckons£13780 so even if they knocked it down to a straight 13000 then i would have only lost 5000 on it in 21 months which isn't bad at all i think. Thats all equity too so would probably easy fund a lease and give me a chunk of cash to spare.
Edited by ED209 on Friday 16th January 09:11
www.swiftlease.co.uk
I used them for a lease a few years back, they were very good. They seem to get very good rates on Merc quite often. They say in the description if you need a car allowance etc to get a specific deal and it doesn't say that for this one - but I'll know more once they reply to me. The only downer is it's 9+23, but it still works out at under three and a half grand a year to rent a C200 at 10k p/a - not too shabby.
I used them for a lease a few years back, they were very good. They seem to get very good rates on Merc quite often. They say in the description if you need a car allowance etc to get a specific deal and it doesn't say that for this one - but I'll know more once they reply to me. The only downer is it's 9+23, but it still works out at under three and a half grand a year to rent a C200 at 10k p/a - not too shabby.
charltjr said:
www.swiftlease.co.uk
I used them for a lease a few years back, they were very good. They seem to get very good rates on Merc quite often. They say in the description if you need a car allowance etc to get a specific deal and it doesn't say that for this one - but I'll know more once they reply to me. The only downer is it's 9+23, but it still works out at under three and a half grand a year to rent a C200 at 10k p/a - not too shabby.
Cheapest and apparently only c class estate deal - 6 plus 35 at £313 a month for 10k miles, Im oot!I used them for a lease a few years back, they were very good. They seem to get very good rates on Merc quite often. They say in the description if you need a car allowance etc to get a specific deal and it doesn't say that for this one - but I'll know more once they reply to me. The only downer is it's 9+23, but it still works out at under three and a half grand a year to rent a C200 at 10k p/a - not too shabby.
I had the same 184bhp engine and autobox in an E-Class, and it was horrible.
I appreciate the E-Class was about 300kg heavier, but it was sluggish, seemed to lack any torque whatsoever, and I averaged 30mpg over a year and 12k miles, 38mpg was the best I ever got on a long light-footed motorway run.
I don't know if they are all like that, but I can't imagine in a C-Class it's twice as good/fast/economical!
ETA - I've just checked and the mpg I got was about 20% less than claimed on all journeys, perhaps a good starting point for a realistic mpg to expect.
I appreciate the E-Class was about 300kg heavier, but it was sluggish, seemed to lack any torque whatsoever, and I averaged 30mpg over a year and 12k miles, 38mpg was the best I ever got on a long light-footed motorway run.
I don't know if they are all like that, but I can't imagine in a C-Class it's twice as good/fast/economical!
ETA - I've just checked and the mpg I got was about 20% less than claimed on all journeys, perhaps a good starting point for a realistic mpg to expect.
Edited by yellowbentines on Friday 16th January 11:26
The problem, and I think this applies to a lot of petrol cars coupled with modern autoboxes, is that petrol engines by their nature don't have the torque of a diesel, so when you have a 7/8/9-spd auto that changes up constantly to keep the revs down and economy up, it feels sluggish, so you really need to plant your right foot to get any sort of performance out of it and the economy really suffers.
What it should say is the performance stats, then the claimed mpg stats, but have a disclaimer saying you can't have both together!
What it should say is the performance stats, then the claimed mpg stats, but have a disclaimer saying you can't have both together!
I'm currently running a petrol engine with similar performance in a car which weighs about 300kg more than the C-Class, I don't think performance would be an issue.
My use case is a bit unusual, I basically cruise at the motorway speed limit for 40 miles of my 50 mile commute and the rest of the time it's generally gentle acceleration and cruising at lower speeds - it's just the way the traffic is on my commute. I'm really not fussed about not having the torque of a diesel, on the rare occasion I need to gain some speed quickly I use the gearbox
In any case the rental has come back at about £3800 a year at 25k p/a which is pretty good. Only a few cars left though so I may miss out as I need to wait for quotes on a couple of other options to come back.
My use case is a bit unusual, I basically cruise at the motorway speed limit for 40 miles of my 50 mile commute and the rest of the time it's generally gentle acceleration and cruising at lower speeds - it's just the way the traffic is on my commute. I'm really not fussed about not having the torque of a diesel, on the rare occasion I need to gain some speed quickly I use the gearbox
In any case the rental has come back at about £3800 a year at 25k p/a which is pretty good. Only a few cars left though so I may miss out as I need to wait for quotes on a couple of other options to come back.
I really struggled to find any real world data on the C200, even a post on the merc owners club forum didn't give any info. I guess there are so few on the road compared to the diesel that finding someone who's also a forum user is a bit of an ask.
I finally found a video on YouTube where someone in east Europe has done a ten minute video of them driving on a motorway using the cruise control at four different speeds. They reset the trip computer between each speed and measure the MPG.
It's not bad - about 40 mpg at uk motorway speeds - but not good enough for my needs especially given that's going to be the best you're going to get.
I finally found a video on YouTube where someone in east Europe has done a ten minute video of them driving on a motorway using the cruise control at four different speeds. They reset the trip computer between each speed and measure the MPG.
It's not bad - about 40 mpg at uk motorway speeds - but not good enough for my needs especially given that's going to be the best you're going to get.
The best deal I have found is from Broadspeed with all negotiations and payment to a Mercedes main dealer for the C200 petrol is:
C200 Sport saloon manual £24426
C200 AMG saloon manual 25768
Both a saving of about £4900 on the new price and if you want an automatic or a Estate they are another £1300 for each.For the diesel the savings are about £5100 off list price but they are more expensive to start with.
Looking at all the second hand new shape C Classes on Pistonheads classified the second hand prices from the Merc dealers seam to be a few thousand more than the price you could buy a new one so you may be better off buying new and saving money.
While my car was repaired after an old boy reversed into me at a petrol station I asked for a new shape C Class as I was interested in buying one.They gave me a C200 petrol automatic from Enterprise car rentals organised through my insurance.
I was very impressed with the car and will buy a C200 AMG petrol saloon later in the year but holding off for the moment as Mercedes will be updating the petrol and diesel engines sometime this year as so may be better to wait.
The official mpg figures for the C Class petrol are:
MPG Urban: 39.8 MPG Extra-urban: 61.4 MPG Combined: 51.4
Although my car should have taken about 4 days to fix in the end I had the hire car for 20 days and used it virtually all the time driving around the Cardiff area with one run to Bristol to see my parents and it averaged 40.3 mpg for the time I had it.
The Merc mpg figures look realistic in my experience and with normal commuting I would think that 50 mpg would be possible to achieve.The C220 diesel would probably average quite a bit better mpg but then again it would cost £2300 more so for me as a private buyer doing 4-5k miles a year I would choose the petrol as it is cheaper,very quiet,not lacking in power and thought it was very impressive.
C200 Sport saloon manual £24426
C200 AMG saloon manual 25768
Both a saving of about £4900 on the new price and if you want an automatic or a Estate they are another £1300 for each.For the diesel the savings are about £5100 off list price but they are more expensive to start with.
Looking at all the second hand new shape C Classes on Pistonheads classified the second hand prices from the Merc dealers seam to be a few thousand more than the price you could buy a new one so you may be better off buying new and saving money.
While my car was repaired after an old boy reversed into me at a petrol station I asked for a new shape C Class as I was interested in buying one.They gave me a C200 petrol automatic from Enterprise car rentals organised through my insurance.
I was very impressed with the car and will buy a C200 AMG petrol saloon later in the year but holding off for the moment as Mercedes will be updating the petrol and diesel engines sometime this year as so may be better to wait.
The official mpg figures for the C Class petrol are:
MPG Urban: 39.8 MPG Extra-urban: 61.4 MPG Combined: 51.4
Although my car should have taken about 4 days to fix in the end I had the hire car for 20 days and used it virtually all the time driving around the Cardiff area with one run to Bristol to see my parents and it averaged 40.3 mpg for the time I had it.
The Merc mpg figures look realistic in my experience and with normal commuting I would think that 50 mpg would be possible to achieve.The C220 diesel would probably average quite a bit better mpg but then again it would cost £2300 more so for me as a private buyer doing 4-5k miles a year I would choose the petrol as it is cheaper,very quiet,not lacking in power and thought it was very impressive.
Hi all, I m in the same boat, struggling to make my mind in between c200 petrol and c220 diesel, Looking for 40-45mpg.
25 miles ( round trip) daily commute to work (city driving), more miles on the weekends.
Currently, I drive Audi A3 1.9tdie, fantastic car, getting 70 odd miles per gallon on the motorway but day to day commute to work (35 to 40 minutes drive in traffic) is around 40mpg. Now looking for a new used car (15 plate) but keeping Audi A3 as a second car.
Planning to keep this new used car for at least 4 to 5 years.
Your help is much appreciated. Would specially like to hear from c200 petrol owners please.
25 miles ( round trip) daily commute to work (city driving), more miles on the weekends.
Currently, I drive Audi A3 1.9tdie, fantastic car, getting 70 odd miles per gallon on the motorway but day to day commute to work (35 to 40 minutes drive in traffic) is around 40mpg. Now looking for a new used car (15 plate) but keeping Audi A3 as a second car.
Planning to keep this new used car for at least 4 to 5 years.
Your help is much appreciated. Would specially like to hear from c200 petrol owners please.
Edited by ph-sum on Sunday 4th March 00:05
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