190E 2.3-8 tuning
Discussion
There are modifications available for pretty much every aspect of the car . If my memory serves correct , the 190 was the most modified car of the 80's .
I'd always vote for leaving things as standard though , especially if your car has survived this long without being altered .
That having been said , brake and tyre technology has moved on so much since the car was made , so upgrades here are sensible .
I'd always vote for leaving things as standard though , especially if your car has survived this long without being altered .
That having been said , brake and tyre technology has moved on so much since the car was made , so upgrades here are sensible .
flatline84 said:
Was just thinking the M102 engine would be a lovely platform for some forced induction or a supercharger...
What are the most common suspension and brake upgrades for a non-sportline 190E? I dont want to lose the comfy ride
How much do want to spend and what's the overall condition of the car? What are the most common suspension and brake upgrades for a non-sportline 190E? I dont want to lose the comfy ride
If you start adding a turbo/supercharger to a 20 year old car , it will cause big issues , unless you build a 'new' car around it at huge cost .
Much better to refresh the suspension bushes , change the shock absorbers (and steering damper) , put fresh brakes on and leave it at that .
Should have bought the C36 if you wanted more power ; it would be far cheaper!!
Much better to refresh the suspension bushes , change the shock absorbers (and steering damper) , put fresh brakes on and leave it at that .
Should have bought the C36 if you wanted more power ; it would be far cheaper!!
mickyveloce said:
Should have bought the C36 if you wanted more power ; it would be far cheaper!!
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Johnboy Mac said:
How much do want to spend and what's the overall condition of the car?
The car is pristine, not a spot of rust. 80k miles. Looks like a 3 year old car, driven by a doctor from new ( 1 owner) in a place of norway with no salt or sandy roads, garaged from new. Kind of why I want to keep it.
Re: the C36. Lovely cars but a different proposition alltogether.
mickyveloce said:
If you start adding a turbo/supercharger to a 20 year old car , it will cause big issues , unless you build a 'new' car around it at huge cost .
Much better to refresh the suspension bushes , change the shock absorbers (and steering damper) , put fresh brakes on and leave it at that .
Should have bought the C36 if you wanted more power ; it would be far cheaper!!
Go with original mercedes W201 parts or are there superior alternatives?Much better to refresh the suspension bushes , change the shock absorbers (and steering damper) , put fresh brakes on and leave it at that .
Should have bought the C36 if you wanted more power ; it would be far cheaper!!
flatline84 said:
Johnboy Mac said:
How much do want to spend and what's the overall condition of the car?
The car is pristine, not a spot of rust. 80k miles. Looks like a 3 year old car, driven by a doctor from new ( 1 owner) in a place of norway with no salt or sandy roads, garaged from new. Kind of why I want to keep it.
Re: the C36. Lovely cars but a different proposition alltogether.
O.k. so, consider a head job, cam & exhaust etc. and maybe EFi instead of the Bosch Jetronic - see sites for more info. For the suspension I'd renew all the bushes, engine & g/box mounts and rear subframe bushes, check the front b/joints too - personally I'd just change those anyway, check steering linkages including idler arm bushes while your at it along with the steering damper. Look at Bilstein B4 shocks & suitable springs with a 20mm drop - see www.Bilstein.de for part numbers. Consider getting Sportline front lower arms. Check out the German club sites & eBay.de You could also fit 16V f&r anti roll bars along with a 16V steering box (or get the current box adjusted). 15X7J fifteen hole alloys with 205/55 tyres would make a difference too.
Johnboy Mac said:
Power gains? At at guess 150-160bhp, with very good torque should be attainable but it's all money. As for a specialist, there is many but most things on 190's are straight forward. There's good guys in Sweden, Germany & the U.K. - again see club web sites & all very helpful.
Nice man, cheers! Should perhaps be lowered a tad, yep.A bit worried about losing the waft if I go gung ho in the sportline bin though...
flatline84 said:
Nice man, cheers! Should perhaps be lowered a tad, yep.
A bit worried about losing the waft if I go gung ho in the sportline bin though...
You're welcome. As for Sportline set up, it's really a very nice set up & a good compromise imo. But fitting just Sportline spec springs & shocks should not disappoint provided the rest of the suspension is generally up to scratch. 190's have lovely chassis, note the muti linked rear design and the F&R shock & spring locations. So, having the suspension in good or better order than standard will be rewarded.A bit worried about losing the waft if I go gung ho in the sportline bin though...
P.s. Renew the front shock top mountings when doing the shocks.
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